2012 Honda CRF250L

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Be a good price if its true under $4.000 Oz for a new honda CRF250L time will tell.:thumbup:
 
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zona;277070 wrote: Having talked to a Honda guy at the Bangkok Motorbike show at Central World; his words on price was "not more than 130K".

I hope you know better than to trust anything you hear from APe Honda... :lolno:
 

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mudboots;277071 wrote: Be a good price if its true under $4.000 Oz for a new honda CRF250L time will tell.:thumbup:
20th of March today and all I've seen are new posters of the CRF at the Honda dealer.

Who'll be the first to post a confirmed price and pics?

A test-ride is probably more than one could expect, even though the local Kawasaki dealer has a test-KLX.
 
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AP Honda had some CRF250L's out for a photo shoot at Bo Din this past weekend, but they were gone by the time I got there... According to some of the trials guys who were there the MSRP for the CRF250L will be 120k Baht. While I remain underwhelmed by the bike I think that if it really comes at that price it will sell well.
 

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2wheels;277698 wrote: Well, hoping to win the prize, I went to a Chiang Mai Honda dealer today and inquired about the 250L.
The lovely young lady knew about it and showed me a calender, pointing at April 17th, then the following few days.
Price? 'Don't know that.'
Maybe she understood you asking for Songkhran? :)
 
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TonyBKK;277706 wrote: AP Honda had some CRF250L's out for a photo shoot at Bo Din this past weekend, but they were gone by the time I got there... According to some of the trials guys who were there the MSRP for the CRF250L will be 120k Baht. While I remain underwhelmed by the bike I think that if it really comes at that price it will sell well.
Yes for 120K you can't go wrong with a Honda. I might even consider buying one just to play around. Can't depreciate much at 120K buying price. I still doubt that they will be cheaper than a KLX. Let's see.
 

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Because the specs leaked from Honda Australia (if they are true) are absolutely rubbish. Terrible ground clearance and low seat height (which in turn probably means not much suspension) and a ridiculously piggish weight of 148kg....

Thats the same weight as a XR650R or a KTM Enduro 690-R for 1/3 of the power! Not a bike to get if you are looking for a nice little trail bike for a bit of off road riding.
 
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madjbs;277717 wrote: Because the specs leaked from Honda Australia (if they are true) are absolutely rubbish. Terrible ground clearance and low seat height (which in turn probably means not much suspension) and a ridiculously piggish weight of 148kg....

Thats the same weight as a XR650R or a KTM Enduro 690-R for 1/3 of the power! Not a bike to get if you are looking for a nice little trail bike for a bit of off road riding.

+1

My thoughts exactly.

If the specs shown in the Australian brochure are correct this new CRF250L is a kind of a step backwards for Honda when you consider that the Honda XR250 is street legal and weighs only 108kg...
 
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With one minor thing ... as far as I know the XR250 is not legally for sale and the CRF250L probably will be.

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I would not take too much notice of the Specs being thrown around! Most of them are incorrect anyway! There were multiple Models of the XR 250 and the last of them made were about the same specs as the KLX. Everyone complained that the KLX was underpowered and over weight when it first came out! Yes the engine was restricted but once that was fixed it is faster than the XR 250. I have No doubt there will be the same stories for the CRF and I also have no doubt once the first issues are resolved it will be more than a match for the KLX if not a better Bike??? I will be getting one so will let everyone know once I have sorted it out and Compare it to My own KLX.
I spoke to a gentleman this week who has Ordered one He claimed along with the Performance ECU which they have as the standard CRF is restricted same as the KLX. I will try and find out some more information from the Bangkok Motorshow next week. Fingers Crossed. Whatever happens it should still be a decent Bike and welcome competition to Kawasaki! Wouldn't it be great if one of them actually made a Bike in the 400 to 650cc range!!!
 
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Ian Bungy;277744 wrote: I would not take too much notice of the Specs being thrown around! Most of them are incorrect anyway! There were multiple Models of the XR 250 and the last of them made were about the same specs as the KLX. Everyone complained that the KLX was underpowered and over weight when it first came out! Yes the engine was restricted but once that was fixed it is faster than the XR 250. I have No doubt there will be the same stories for the CRF and I also have no doubt once the first issues are resolved it will be more than a match for the KLX if not a better Bike??? I will be getting one so will let everyone know once I have sorted it out and Compare it to My own KLX.
I spoke to a gentleman this week who has Ordered one He claimed along with the Performance ECU which they have as the standard CRF is restricted same as the KLX. I will try and find out some more information from the Bangkok Motorshow next week. Fingers Crossed. Whatever happens it should still be a decent Bike and welcome competition to Kawasaki! Wouldn't it be great if one of them actually made a Bike in the 400 to 650cc range!!!
It's been mentioned before on this forum that Kawasaki manufactures the KLR650 in Thailand-

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I've never ridden one but it's always received rave reviews and is said to be a great dual purpose bike.

The sales staff at Kawasaki tell me that the carb'd KLR650 can't pass the strict Thai emissions test, so it seems like we won't see this bike in Thailand until Kawasaki adds FI...

As for the specs on the CRF250L, they're from Honda Australia and while the weight of the new bike seems rather unbelievable, I guess we'll have to wait and see if they got the specs wrong in their brochure:

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If the specs are accurate then the CRF250L will be better suited to rough roads and gravel, while the KLX250 with less weight and more clearance should be better suited for more challenging off road adventures.

The more choices the better! It's great that there will now be another Japanese 250cc bike available in Thailand.

Look forward to seeing the new Honda CRF250L at the Bangkok Motor Show!
 
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Changnoi1;277742 wrote: With one minor thing ... as far as I know the XR250 is not legally for sale and the CRF250L probably will be.

Chang Noi
Sure, but I am guessing they simply mean a step back in design..
 
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Ian Bungy;277778 wrote: Yes the KLR 650 would be a Cheap Adventure Bike if they ever get EFI on it? Or even better still if they made the KLR with the Versys Engine!!!
KLX / KLR 650 (would love a super moto) would fit the big bore trailie mold so well here..

Saw bits of a SM 650 Kwak in Nuts the other day... Would be a nice step up from my DRZ440 for mostly on rd use..
 

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That would be a nice surprise! My guess is 128,500 THB, just for fun.

I don't mind much if the bike will be 147kg wet, my VTR250 was 153 kg wet according to some websites and it felt quite light.

I'd use the bike 95% of the time onroad anyways, city traffic, maybe short distance traveling; a bit of weight doesn't hurt.

A few pounds extra can feel nice! :lol:

Of course if you're seriously into off-road every pound counts. But therefor you got the CRF250R!
 
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2wheels;277845 wrote: Interesting news from 'Motorcycle Thailand';

" You can buy them (CRF250L) tomorrow (Wednesday), not sure how many Honda dealers will have stock (probably not many) and the official price will also be released tomorrow during the first public day of the 33rd Bangkok International Motorshow. "
which both is false, you can't buy it (and they said "not sure, maybe mid/end of april ) nor do they have a price....i was there yesterday at the show. will post pics in general discussions later.
 
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Looking it it the exhaust must weigh 10 kg wonder what else you could lose off of it to get the weight down and whats with the front brake line sticking up so high .. sort of like at the last min ... oh bugger it thats good enough.
 
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With a bit to much spare time on my hands right now i was having a very close look at the frame on the crf and its not very impressive at all and the wielding is bad!! I would like to see it striped to bare frame to have a really good look. You would think with a demo bike they would go all out to make it as good as possible.
I might sound a bit cynical but i have been fabricating steel as well as aluminum + repairing motorbike frames and all sorts of things over the years and i am sure it they had made the frame out of aluminum it would have made the bike a lot lighter but it is a little harder to wield and if they are having trouble wielding steel frame pipe goodness knows with aluminum.
 
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mudboots;277914 wrote: With a bit to much spare time on my hands right now i was having a very close look at the frame on the crf and its not very impressive at all and the wielding is bad!! I would like to see it striped to bare frame to have a really good look. You would think with a demo bike they would go all out to make it as good as possible.
I might sound a bit cynical but i have been fabricating steel as well as aluminum + repairing motorbike frames and all sorts of things over the years and i am sure it they had made the frame out of aluminum it would have made the bike a lot lighter but it is a little harder to wield and if they are having trouble wielding steel frame pipe goodness knows with aluminum.
thanks for confirming what i had thought as well, the welding looks questionable to my eyes too(but i am no specialist in steelworks or welding)...adding that the show model at bkk motorshow has also a rusty chain (very light rust but still) i can say i am not impressed. the klx looked of better quality...sure depends what honda wants for so-so welded and chain rusty crf :)
 
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2wheels;277919 wrote: Given the observations mentioned above, I find it incredible that AP Honda would present an important new bike to the market knowing (or not noticing) that the workmanship and presentation was below par.
This shows a disrespect for the bike and for potential customers.
agreed, but then again if it wasn't like this we wouldn't call it APe Honda :)
 

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As long as it's cheap I don't mind ugly welds...

I'd take the white one, looks like it's primed for a nice light-colored paint-job!
 
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I had high hopes for the Honda CRF 250L as i would rather have a Honda between my legs than a Kawasaki but with the weight and ground clearance and to my mind bad overall product i will go with the KLX 250 on my return ... by the way if i pull the carby off my KLX here anyone know how much trouble it would be to bolt it on a new KLX and dump the fuel injection and all the other crap they have on them i could not give a rats ass about the warranty for the price they are.