Hi all, I spent a fair bit searching around the (extremely useful!) forum but couldn't find any advice for first time rides in Chiang Mai -- maybe because someone who has never ridden a motorbike shouldn't be having his first go in Thailand! I cycle a lot on very busy streets and I have fair road awareness, so I feel like a combination of very slow and careful driving and sticking to easy roads should maximize my likelihood of survival. That being said, three questions: 1) Is this just a bad idea? I feel confident I can pick up a moped and drive off without too much difficulty. Am I plain wrong? 2) Can anyone recommend any easy routes, i.e. roads without too many bends, no gravel, etc.? I've read a bunch about Samoeng and it's the route I'm considering, though the start counter clockwise from the 107 seems to be on a pretty busy road. Any other good ways to get on the loop from quieter roads? Also, I imagine I should rent a semi-auto rather than auto for the hills -- or would a simple auto moped be able to tackle the loop? The only thing I'm worried about is breaking and going downhill... 3) Is there anyone who'd like to tag along and show me the ropes? I plan to go in the next few days, maybe Monday, starting early in the morning to beat the afternoon rain. Best regards and thanks in advance for any help! Michael