International Transport Permit

Discussion in 'General Discussion / News / Information' started by DavidFL, Mar 24, 2008.

  1. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

    I will be in Bkk Thurs-Frid-Sat & aiming to get my ITP for the AT on Thursday.
    Has anyone else done one for their bike in Bkk?
    Any tips / ideas?
     
  2. Loading...


  3. Azoulay

    Azoulay Ol'Timer

    Hi David,

    In fact, what is it ?
     
  4. Marco

    Marco Ol'Timer

    David

    Are you planing to ride or airlift your bike to where?

    is this what you looking for, Carnet de Passages en Douane ?
     
  5. Ian Bungy

    Ian Bungy Ol'Timer

    I Don't know that much about it but my Friend Got a Book like a Passport for His Pickup from the Motor Vehicle office here in Chiang Mai. Only Valid for 1 year i think. Did you check them already?
     
  6. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

  7. Azoulay

    Azoulay Ol'Timer

    OK clear
     
  8. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

    Here's what the book looks like for a car.
    [​IMG]
     
  9. pee

    pee Ol'Timer

    I went yesterday to the Land & Transport office (Chatuchak- Mo Chit). My purpose was to get a International Transport Permit for my new bike.
    They told me that they don't issue ITP anymore (since january 2008).
    In the past I got 2 ITP (see below how it looks like) from this very same office, without too much problem.
    They required:
    -Green book
    -Po ro Bo
    -Passport (evidence of your current visa)
    However if what they told me is confirmed ITP belong to the past...

    [​IMG]
     
  10. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

    Yep I agree with you 100% Pee. And you must have been the guy there the day before me.

    NO MORE ITP International Transport Permit for motorbikes!

    Can you imagine the look on my face when I rolled up at the Land Transport office....
    [​IMG]
    "fresh" off the first flight from Cnx, asking for an ITP & only to be told they don’t exist for motorbikes anymore.
    Cars yes, but motorbikes NO.
    I was a bit gob smacked at first.

    Counter # 5 is where all the ITP action takes place....
    [​IMG]

    Anyway, after a bit of semi-confused discussion, it was explained that the change occurred Dec / Jan (end of the year?) & that there is a replacement document. This is basically an English language translation of your bike rego / ownership book & is called a Vehicle Registration Certificate.....
    [​IMG]

    Official notes for this are..
    [​IMG]

    I could not ascertain what the exact reason for the change was - a policy or law change, but I did manage to get a 7 page Thai language document explaining what &maybe why. Now for a translation.
    One of the reasons I was able to get this doc was because I complained that the Customs border staff in Chiang Khong & Nong Khai knew nothing about the change & were still asking for the ITP.

    I found the staff at counter # 5 friendly & helpful. There was no charge for the Vehicle ID Certificate.
    My only grumble was having to wait 2 hrs for the boss to turn up & sign the document. Otherwise they claim up to 1 hr to get it normally.

    If any of you guys are crossing the borders regularly, going out of Thailand, then I recommend you get a Vehicle Rego Certificate to smooth the process; as I believe you are supposed to have them & the more computerized they become at the borders, the more correct they will be in their work as they will be checked in the computer. They should be able to issue one at the place of registration of your bike. Check it out soon.
     
  11. pee

    pee Ol'Timer

    "Vehicle Registration Certificate": that's the document they issued for me as well. There was a small fee for it: 25 Bahts.
    They may have felt a bit sorry for you coming especially from Chiang Mai. As a nice symbolic gesture they didn't charge you. They are a nice bunch at the Chatuchak Department of Land Transport Office.

    Thank you for asking the " 7 page Thai language document explaining what &maybe why".
    The main point is that the staff at borders crossings are aware of the change and don't require the ITP anymore...

    They shouldn't miss stamping bikes passports:[​IMG]
     
  12. SilverhawkUSA

    SilverhawkUSA Ol'Timer

    OK maybe I am stupid, but I am somehow missing the whole point of this. It is only Thailand asking for the document, they read Thai. If I have my book with me, written in Thai, why the hell do I need an English translation?

    Maybe if I am crossing a southern border and Malaysia needs it, but I surely don't see anyone needing it in the north. :roll:
     
  13. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

    Silverhawk
    On my last couple of trips to / from Laos I was asked for it.
    Even the super polite Miss Khao at Customs in Chiang Khong said you are supposed to have it now.
    Coming back in at Nong Khai the duty officer first refused entry because I did not have one, but after discussion with his boss they said ok, but next time you MUST have one.
    My guess is with the computer & the new cross border transport agreements all vehicles going & coming should have one, with the details going in the computer. No details in the computer & they get questioned later on, or maybe eventualy the program default settings will reject the entry with the incomplete details.
     
  14. SilverhawkUSA

    SilverhawkUSA Ol'Timer

    Silverhawk
    On my last couple of trips to / from Laos I was asked for it.
    Even the super polite Miss Khao at Customs in Chiang Khong said you are supposed to have it now.
    Coming back in at Nong Khai the duty officer first refused entry because I did not have one, but after discussion with his boss they said ok, but next time you MUST have one. ( ONE WHAT?)
    My guess is with the computer & the new cross border transport agreements all vehicles going & coming should have one, with the details going in the computer. No details in the computer & they get questioned later on, or maybe eventualy the program default settings will reject the entry with the incomplete details.

    They asked for the ITP. I was asked for it when I crossed back in at Nong Khai, but fortunately one of the ladies there informed the guy asking that it is not necessary for motorcycles. Apparently your new info is no more ITP necessary for motorcycle. Case closed in my opinion.

    The translation only is a translation of the book, am I right? So the info is there (in the book), and in our case, already in the computer. I see no need for a translation if you have your book.
     
  15. pee

    pee Ol'Timer

    I have given up trying to understand the justification of sometimes baroque new administrative rules here (and elsewhere).
    I just try to be aware of them ... and hope that all official departments (police, custom, immigration, etc) and civil servants implement the same set of rules at the same time.
     
  16. Madyakka

    Madyakka Member

    Hi David just to let you know they are still issuing ITP's in Nakhonsawan,
    I received my first ITP here a couple of weeks ago and I had no problems
    leaving via the friendship bridge,

    safe riding,

    Madyakka :wink:
     
  17. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

    And it seems as if they are still issuing them in Chiang Mai if the rumours are true.
    Weird isn't it, but perhaps the word has just NOT come through from HQs in Bkk, or they are simply waiting until their local stock of motorcycle ITPs are exhausted.
    Whatever if you've got a legal registered bike & are remotely interested in riding your bike o/s, then it is a good idea to get an ITP from your local office while you can, because it does ease the process at the border & technically we are all supposed to have them when crossing the border now.
     
  18. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

    Some old history for the guys asking about the Vehicle Registration certificate.

    NO more International Transport Permits, but Vehicle Registration Certificates. Valid for 12 months at a time.
    Generally not asked for at the border, but if you do produce one it does make the process easier.
     

Share This Page