Malaysia temporary import

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  1. irv327

    irv327 Active Member

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  3. LaudJohn

    LaudJohn Ol'Timer

    A mate and I rode our Cambo registered bikes into Malaysia in January and there was no paperwork at the border in or out

    We rode in from Thailand; left them in KL a week later for a month came back and I rode ine back with no problems

    He even shipped his to Kuching (Malaysian Borneo) and into the Phillipines by ferry with no reported problem

    cheers

    LaudJohn
     
  4. HIKO

    HIKO Ol'Timer

    I Agree with LaudJohn that they will never check your papers. I have gone maybe 10 times across the borders without checking. If you want to take insurance and you have a Thai bike you will need an official translation from the Thai Landtransport office and if you want to go to Singapore all your papers must be 100% if you want to get in. Better leave the bike on the Malayasian side. According to the rules you are probably allowed to keep the bike as long as your visa is. HIKO
     
  5. Joko

    Joko Ol'Timer

    yes, thai vehicles need not show any documentation at the malaysian border crossings. U only need to have a valid roadtax and yr thai insurance. (A simple fact is that its msian & spore vehicles that get 'slipped' into thailand, not the other way round[:p]
    Vehicles entering spore are more stringent...U need to produce ownership cert (for 1st time data-entry), current roadtax, purchase a Vehicle specific, Autopass/cashcard that is not-transferable. A sum of money is credited onto the cashcard and deducted everytime u enter spore.

    SHipping of vehicle to Sabah & Sarawak, is by m'sian standard, very expensive...hence, west m'sians seldom ride in sabah & sarawak...in fact, we prefer thailand [:D]

    joko

    p/s police set up speed traps regularly along the North-SOuth h'way. Beware of the twisty & sandy bike lane located behind some of the toll stations....otherwise, enjoy yr ride in msia.[:)]
     
  6. Joko

    Joko Ol'Timer

    p/s...no, U cannot sell your thai registered bikes in m'sia. Malaysians are not allowed to own a foreign registered bike unless it was imported with the Approved Permit etc...or alternatively, m'sian can 'owned' a thai bike (registered in a thai name) and do regular runs across the border to stamp the (thai owned) permit, insurance etc...
     
  7. razin

    razin Member

    By law, Thai bikes are allowed 90 days on Malaysia ground as per ICP (International Circulatory Permit). You need to have your green book translated into English at the Thai Land Transport Department. Proceed to the Malaysian Land Transport Department located on the right after the Malaysian Check Point at Bukit Kayu Hitam to obtain the ICP FOC but you need to buy a 90 days Malaysian 3rd party insurance at about 70-80 ringgit depending on which insurance company. Hope this helps.
     
  8. PICO-PICO

    PICO-PICO Ol'Timer

    and what is your opinion riskwise to go South in Malaysia from Phuket?

    Pico
     
  9. Joko

    Joko Ol'Timer

    pico: can u define 'risk' here? Many thais registered bikes (with foreigner riders) rode in & out pretty regularly without any hassles form the malaysian police or MOT.

    Phuket to Danok/Bukit Kayu Hitam is only 500+km. Then its only <200km to Penang or 460km to KL. Or <800km to Spore :)

    irv: as razin pointed out. Its 30days after all the paperworks done.

    joko
     
  10. PICO-PICO

    PICO-PICO Ol'Timer

    Thanks Joko, I wasnt too clear. Didnt mean red tape, meant = is it save to be riding down in the SOuth of Thailand.
    Thinking of train derailment, etc.

    Less worried myself but I´ll be responsible for my Thai companion too.

    Cheers Pico
     
  11. Joko

    Joko Ol'Timer

    The distance between the trouble south of Pattani/narathiwat and Phuket/Trang/Patalung (areas u will ride pass) is roughly 700km away. I mean, it almost like another contry away, in my books :)

    The train that got derailed plies the Golok - Hatyai etc routes. It got hit also around the southeast region. (i used to take this train to Penang, at nearly every school break during my teen years :)

    Hatyai got hit by 9 small bombs, when i was in C'Mai recently[:0] The incident is now affecting the Hatyai Bike Week (july6-7). Many riders from spore & msia are seriuosly having 2nd thought about going...and the thai authorities are pulling all stops to make it a success (green lane, escort, guarded areas etc).

    Me? i am still contemplating the safety issues...

    joko
     
  12. PICO-PICO

    PICO-PICO Ol'Timer

    thank you Joko, that´s enough. I have seen enough in life, so why taking risks, normal riding carries enough already. I´ll wait for better times.
    Pico
     
  13. tropicaljohno

    tropicaljohno Ol'Timer

    Pico

    When riding to Sadao, the Thaland Border, there is no need to go through Had Yai, as the main road by passes it.

    Penang is only 1.5 hours over the border, a nice island to chill out for a few days.

    The ferries run 24 hours, and they also hve a bridge, (I think 3rd longest in the world).

    You only pay going over to Penang, so it doesn't matter which one you choose, the ferry is better as its closer, and it lands in Georgetown, the main town, and all the guest houses are litteraly just around the corner in Lebiu Chillua (spelling probably wrong, too lazy to check guide bok)
     
  14. Joko

    Joko Ol'Timer

    Hahahhahaha[:D] U r rite in all areas TJ, except its spelt Leboh Chulia.[:D] Its backpacker-centric with cheap accom...Parking your bike could be a bitch though...

    Upon entering the island, pay the same price either by ferry or Bridge. It's RM1.00 (i think) by bike and RM7.00 (baht69)by car. The outgoing is free.

    Have fun.
    joko
     
  15. PICO-PICO

    PICO-PICO Ol'Timer

    Thanks for getting me going again, Johno or for this little kick in the a.....
     
  16. harrythefinn

    harrythefinn Ol'Timer

    Re entering Penang.
    You used to pay only when leaving,ie. a free ferry to get to the island (opposite to now with the bridge also)so the standard joke used to be.........

    Why are there so many Chinese in Penang? You guessed it, they are too tight to pay for the ferry off the island!

    Disclaimer: Pls it's only a joke, so no racist stuff back and apologies for anyone Chinese.
     
  17. Peter Hooper

    Peter Hooper Ol'Timer

    That answers a question I had about the fare on the Ferry. I went over on the bridge and paid, then caught the ferry back. The whole time I was on the Ferry and going through the exits I was expecting a ticket collector to come around but nobody came. I thought I had slipped the system somehow
    Cheers
    Peter.
     
  18. tropicaljohno

    tropicaljohno Ol'Timer

    Peter

    Sydney Harbour Bridge works the same way, you only pay one way, going from North Sydney into the city. In the olden days, cars cost 4 times the price of a bike, so when the toll collecters went on strike, I would take the car to work, instead of the bike, as I save more on the toll using the car.
     
  19. Joko

    Joko Ol'Timer

    harry, there's actually more truth to this than a joke. Penangites are famous/infamous for their frugality/stingyness/ability to stretch their money. In fact there is even a proverb of sort (in Hokkian) that says "Goh-chiam peh tua ka Gu Chea Lian" meaning "a 5-cent is as big as a bullock cart wheel"...that basically spells out the stretch-the-value of money to the Penangites.

    Infact, Penang (and part of nort-west M'sia) is still the test market for Product/Price-Test especialy for a new product/or line extension. The propensity-to-buy up in Penang & its northern neighbours, will gauge the general acceptance of product-versus-value natiowide.

    SO, maybe if you have a product to bring to this part of the world, Penang could be a good test market :)

    joko
     
  20. Joko

    Joko Ol'Timer

    harry, there's actually more truth to this than a joke. Penangites are famous/infamous for their frugality/stingyness/ability to stretch their money. In fact there is even a proverb of sort (in Hokkian) that says "Goh-chiam peh tua ka Gu Chea Lian" meaning "a 5-cent is as big as a bullock cart wheel"...that basically spells out the stretch-the-value of money to the Penangites.

    Infact, Penang (and part of nort-west M'sia) is still the test market for Product/Price-Test especialy for a new product/or line extension. The propensity-to-buy up in Penang & its northern neighbours, will gauge the general acceptance of product-versus-value natiowide.

    SO, maybe if you have a product to bring to this part of the world, Penang could be a good test market :)

    joko
     
  21. tropicaljohno

    tropicaljohno Ol'Timer

    Pico if you want to go for a ride, the best time is always now, as they say waiting for tomorrow never comes. You'd have to be pretty unlucky to get caught up in the troubles down south, anyway.

    Phuket not that much safer, in this weeks Phuket Gazette, we have
    - a restuarant owner shot dead 4 times
    - acid attack on young women so bad it even scorched the ceramic tiles on floor
    - 2 teenage fisherman gunned down, both shot 3 times
    - Parasail worker charged with raping Japanese tourist
     
  22. razin

    razin Member

    joko, razin and a farang took the risk yesterday passing thru than-to, bannang star, kota bahru, rangae, yi-ngo, tanyongmas, to get to sungai golok from betong a 300km ride...pretty scary seeing so many foot soldiers...if anyone want to come to the south, stick to main highway ok? joko..you need to learn to read thai for the word HIGHWAY... :)
     
  23. PICO-PICO

    PICO-PICO Ol'Timer

    During the Lebanese war 1984 (until today???) I drove through pitchdark Beirut downtown when there was a curfew, one of the least cozy moments. Among the many other no so funny moments was being often stopped at check points by whatever Christian, Palestinian, Muslim, Druse faction and look into guns held by 15-16 old teenagers.
    Now, how do you talk to, debate with them ?
    Didnt speak Arabic, dont speak Thai.
     
  24. monsterman

    monsterman Ol'Timer

    I was also in Beirut 1986 , got shot at often , escaped being blown to bits twice ,avoided a kipnap attemt by Hezbollah(the scariest moment) the guy I replaced was shot in the back by a sniper and my replacement lost a leg in a car bomb, so I reckon i was blessed lucky but riding bike in thailand has similar risks and i enjoy it so maybe I will go to Hatyai bike week if work allows me the time , cant let those bastard terrorists win.
     
  25. razin

    razin Member

  26. Joko

    Joko Ol'Timer

    DOing the approx 300km run from Betong to Sg Golok in the restive south was made on an impulse. Breakky decision can be foolhardy at times...but what the heck! there are bikers in Kota Bharu who rode 1200 rtn trip, to Kuala Lumpur just to have tea with us!

    Along the way, we encountered numerous road blocks but a good 90% looked 'deserted'..the barriers & bards were there but no soldiers.
    The scariest mo was when we tailed a long convoy of humvees, police vans, and armed soldiers manning 60mm calibers ain't exactly reassuring for me...I mean, 'they' ambushed army convoy with roadside bombs, don't they?[:0]...afetr at least 2-3kilo, i was glad when they veered left towards some dirt track and we got on our way 'safely'

    The village folks (muslims) seem happy to see us. They chatted with us (in a malay dialect) and half the village seemed to turn up. The owner of the lil' coffee stall was pleased to ahve a farang in his stall. They gladly posed a pix for international race/religion relationship [:D]

    Anyhow, the more south we went, the more foot patrol we encountered...there was even a place where they stationed single armed soldier every 1 kilom or so...not too reassuring in my book.

    I wouldn't ride this way again..not for a long time or when they have a 'real' peace, which ever came first...

    joko-reporting-from-duh-restive-south
     

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