Versys anteater nose cure

Discussion in 'General Discussion / News / Information' started by Hoghead, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. Hoghead

    Hoghead Ol'Timer

    Some may like the odd "anteater" nose on the Versys, but it seems to me that the designer went to lunch, had a few beers, and forgot to finish the job. I finally could not take it anymore and built a fibreglass filler panel to solve the Versys anteater nose look.
    A bit more work to do on the finish and mounting brackets but it will look like this

    Since I have to make a mould, I will be making several sets so let me know if you are interested. Price is not known until I am done but think 4000 B in black gel coat, and quality bracketry.

    Thinking to paint mine red to match the bike, but flat black is an easy rattle can job for those that prefer the blacked out look.

    This is part of my Versys beak project but I like it so much that I am not going to fit the beak on my own bike.
    On to the beak section tomorrow for those that really want the beak

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  3. Gary D

    Gary D Ol'Timer

    I saw Kawasaki Udon Thani fitting a beak similar to a bmw f800, to a Versys only this week. And it looked real good.
     
  4. Ian Bungy

    Ian Bungy Ol'Timer

    I have seen a Beaked Versys on the Road but never up close. From Your Photo Robert it is a little hard to make out the difference? Almost looks like a Air Intake blocked off? Looks pretty neat though so be looking forward to seeing the finished product.
     
  5. TonyBKK

    TonyBKK Ol'Timer

    Interesting project. I understand you're making the parts out of fiberglass? What would it take to have them made out of ABS plastic so that they match the rest of the body panels?
     
  6. Hoghead

    Hoghead Ol'Timer

    Fiberglass is easy for the DYI handyman, and uses a relatively inexpensive mould.
    ABS OTOH, requires a very expensive mould and beyond what I can do at home.
     
  7. Hoghead

    Hoghead Ol'Timer

    Bought the engine guards from TonyBBK above. Locally made so I chose to support the GT-Rider community

    Ian - the beak is ala BMW GS and is still in mock up stage as I need to make this filler first, and then fit the beak to the moulded part. It could be done in one go but I am not that smart.
    It will mount to the filler so one can go with or without beak as preferred.
     
  8. TonyBKK

    TonyBKK Ol'Timer

    Thanks for the explanation. I guess that explains why fiberglass is so popular here. Setting up production of ABS is a big investment.
     
  9. TonyBKK

    TonyBKK Ol'Timer

    Go figure a mate just clued me in to a company down the street from my house that is selling exactly what Robert is making-

    Address and phone:อุปกรณ์แต่งกายและของแต่งกิ๊บเก๋สำหรับ Big Bike ที่ตั้งซอยรามคำแหง 43/1 สนใจโทร 083-8951223 ส่งทั่วประเทศ

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    I'll wander over there later today or next week to ask about price.

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  10. TonyBKK

    TonyBKK Ol'Timer

    ^ It's 4500 Baht for the set of three pieces.
     
  11. Ian Bungy

    Ian Bungy Ol'Timer

    Looks pretty good but the Actual Beak is Too Big in My view? Needs to be shortened a bit to make it look a bit more in Perspective? Only My opinion of Course, each to their own!
     
  12. KZ25

    KZ25 Ol'Timer

    Now it looks like an anteater in mating season! :D
     
  13. TonyBKK

    TonyBKK Ol'Timer

    Ha ha! That's a good one!

    In english we say, "You can dress up a pig, but it's still a pig" :lol-sign:
     
  14. jimbobs

    jimbobs Ol'Timer

    everyone to their own but i have see a lot of versys with it on i do not think it looks any better, the thais seem to have them on their bikes, i will keep the mods down to a minimum on my versys even luggage i want the removable brackets on mine.
    We also have a saying in England "' YOU CANT POLISH A TURD'
     
  15. Hoghead

    Hoghead Ol'Timer

    This beak design trend started in Malaysia, and this project started by buying one a few weeks ago. Unfortunately is is a steaming, ill fitting, POS.
    As it turns out I bought Malaysian Rev 1 and there is now Rev 2 which is very similar to what Tony has posted. As I understand the difference is in the mounting method.

    Nothing on one one I bought fits properly, especially the big uneven gaps where the new side pods blend into the stock anteater nose. The beak portion is flimsy, unsupported, and cantilevered off the side pods. Proportions and body lines are all wrong. It took a day of body work to make it straight. Brackets are flimsy, shoddy, and IMHO just not up to long term use and vibration.

    A total waste of money (6000 B landed at my door) and the Vendor is taking the typical SE Asian attitude of 'very sorry but no returns". Sorry for what - knowingly selling a part that is not proper nor fit for purpose, or ripping me off?
    To my knowledge there are 3 Malaysian Vendors and I suspect that given the copy culture they are remarkably similar. That is it for me and ripped off once, twice shy, so I proceeded to do it right myself and reinvent the wheel

    It pissed me off so much that I cut up this useless POS and used it as a starting point to do it right, resulting in what I have so far. If I had of known that it could be bought in BKK I would just have kissed my 6000 B goodby spent another 4500 and chocked it up to experience.

    This Thai one looks a lot better than what I got from Malaysia and I would really like to see it up close. I am not sure how it is mounted and it seems to be attached to the ABS body panels, with the beak cantilevered off the side pods per Malaysian Rev 2. If so then I would be suspect in relation to how it will hold up with stress and vibration.

    I agree that the beak seems a bit long as does the Malaysian one.

    As it is I am now in so deep that I have to carry on, and it has been a learning exercise. I do however think that it can be done better
    My pig will have lipstick
     
  16. Hoghead

    Hoghead Ol'Timer

    The more I work on this the more of these turn up in the market
    Here is another side pod - price is a bit cheeky at 359 Euros unpainted

    http://www.s2concept.com/
     
  17. KZ25

    KZ25 Ol'Timer

    I think you should listen to these guys, they know what they're talking about:

     
  18. Joelthailand

    Joelthailand Ol'Timer

    hhhmmm......Liked it initially but the longer i look the more i dislike.

    Just looks weird especially with the original mud guard still in place.


    Save up for a real hypermotard or best keep the old ant eater look i recon.
     
  19. jimbobs

    jimbobs Ol'Timer

    yeh my days of modifying are over,, i remember lowering and putting some wheels on my XR3i , only older people will remember them i couldnt get around tight bends ha ha,thought it was cool,,i was 19,,,theres some really cool customised bikes out there ,,,,,if the z800 comes to thailand i wonder what people will do with that ?,,,i like the look of the z800, i think the versys is ok,, but there are some who will say both bikes are ugly as i say each to their own.
    Some like to look different and good luck to them but alot of people are going for this mod will it help or hinder the aerodynamics of the versys at high speeds ide be interested to know
     
  20. Hoghead

    Hoghead Ol'Timer

    These side filler fairing panels will have far less effect on high speed stability then bolting on a fully loaded large breadbox behind the pillion and/or a set of heavy, fat panniers, gigantic windscreen etc

    It is clearly impossible for a DYI person to quantify the effect of the side panels, but I suspect that it cannot be felt in a butt test. Not sure if the same can be said with a large beak, however as Ian says the esthetic requirement that it be a bit smaller should help. Note that the beak is frame mounted, and not to the front fork, so any effect on stability will be mitigated.

    In any case, I do not think that it can go fast enough to make a difference, but rest assured that it will be tested today without beak
     
  21. Changnoi1

    Changnoi1 Ol'Timer

    This modifications looks like someone wants to make it look more as a Versys is ....
    I did see a few Versys that even had an BMW logo (and of course nothing of Kawasaki anymore).

    Chang Noi
     
  22. KZ25

    KZ25 Ol'Timer

    Talking about BMW and ants - the new "Wasserboxer" really looks like one!

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  23. TonyBKK

    TonyBKK Ol'Timer

    Are these "beaks" purely cosmetic or do they serve a purpose? The bike already has a fender over the wheel, so what's the beak for?
     
  24. KZ25

    KZ25 Ol'Timer

    Aerodynamics. It should push the front down at high speeds. It's amazing what a A4-sized piece of plastic can do. But does it have to look that way?

    Years ago BMWs were purely "form-follows-function" and people called them ugly.

    Lately they have top-notch designs. Can't argue about taste, some have it, some don't, but the newer BMWs sure don't look Italian!

    Did you notice those sly Bavarians rotated the intake/exhaust 90 degrees?
     
  25. Hoghead

    Hoghead Ol'Timer

    The moulds are being made now and should have the first run when I get back next week from the latest ride
     
  26. yychow0812

    yychow0812 Ol'Timer

    Looking forward to seeing the pics.
     

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