6 nights 7 days in the Top North.

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6 nights 7 days in the Top North.

Postby Davidfl » 07.08.2009, 01:35

Date: Sunday 26 July - Saturday 1st August

The way: Chiang Mai - Chiang Rai - Mae Sai - Mae Chan - Doi Mae Salong - Thoed Thai - Chiang Saen - Chiang Khong - Chiang Rai - Wianmg Pa Pao - Phrao - Chiang Mai.

The weather: heavy overcast, but cool 'n dry! And it's wet season. You little beauty. :)

The weather at the start
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Going over the top the road was wet, but I lucked out - no rain.
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It was a break at Black Canyon in Mae Kachan for a cappuccino, then a bigger break at Charin Resort for cappu & cheese cake. Arrival time in CEI was 5.50PM & the Nimseeseng was the place of stay.

The master plan for this trip was to check out some "new" (for me) attractions in Chiang Rai.
1. Oub Kham Museum
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http://www.oubkhammuseum.com/

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2009/03/02/opinion/opinion_30096948.php

A lifetime's work opens a window on past grandeur
By Pridiyathorn Devakula
Published on March 2, 2009

TWO WEEKS AGO, while in the city of Chiang Rai, I took my customers to the Oub Kham Museum and found that it was recently renovated, providing more room for more impressive presentations.

Julasak Suriyachai, the founder and owner of this museum, has collected numerous antiques belonging to the Tai. He would very much like tourists, local or foreign, to see this rare collection and learn about the Tai races.

The Oub Kham Museum is considered to have the best private collection from the Lanna Kingdom and various cities of the Tai in southern China, the Shan state of Burma, Laos as well as the city of Thaen (or Dian Bian Fu nowadays) in Vietnam.

The collectibles include silver ornaments such as hairpins, necklaces, earrings, bangles, belts and crowns, which were crafted with delicate patterns.

Also on display are the costumes of various Tai races, especially those worn by the nobles in the old days, which were made of cloth woven with silk or gold thread, the kind of clothes that are no longer made.

These costumes are well preserved, still look elegant and are ready for use in any important ceremony. There are also personal utensils such as golden boxes to keep ornaments and other small belongings, silver containers for Buddha's relics, sacred water bowls crafted with finely perforated designs, silver sets for betel nuts and side dishes, and a small pavilion housing a Buddha image for worshipping at home.

Most spectacular are the rare Buddha images from various ancient periods, some older than a thousand years. They are made of metal as well as gemstones such as topaz, ruby, emerald, jade and rock crystal.

It can be said that this is the biggest collection of gemstone Buddha images under private ownership. Looking at some, which are made from a sizeable chunk of gemstone, one cannot even judge the value of the stone itself.

On the altars set up for worshipping visitors is a complete set of important Buddha images from the Chiang Saen period - Singha One, Singha Two and Singha Three - and many others in Chiang Saen style. The antiquary will definitely be contented if they see this set-up.

Besides, Julasak also put some important Buddha images from the Oothong and Sukhothai periods on the altars. This is a perfect set-up of a pedestal for a Buddha image called Oo Saen Suk (Oothong, Chiang Saen, Sukhothai) which has the very good meaning of the most comfortable dwelling.

Another Buddha image worthy of note is the Tai Yai, made of marble, sitting on top of the pedestal.

Bigger pieces from the Lanna Kingdom include the Sattaban, which is normally placed in front of the principle Buddha image in the main chapel and used for holding seven candles to worship the principle Buddha image.

Others are the carved wood ceiling of the chapel and Oub Kham, a utensil similar to Toke but with a big lid, made of bamboo covered with black lacquer plastered with gold leaves, and decorated with coloured stones or gemstones, for those belonging to nobles.

Beside Sattaban and Oub, another piece of Lanna art is the woodwork of an animal in heaven, according to the belief of the Lanna people, called Panjaroop (Five Figures), which is composed of the important features of five animals formed together to become one sacred animal.

The features are the trunk and tusks of an elephant, the body of a dragon, the wings of a bird, the tail of a fish and the legs and feet of a deer. The one in the museum was made of carved wood covered with gold foil and decorated with mirrors and coloured glass. It is now still in perfect condition.


There are a lot of sacred things that were the personal belongings of royalty in the old days including crowns, ornaments, betel nut sets, golden boxes and royal costumes.

You will be surprised to also see the thrones of the prince and princess of the ruler of one city in Shan. They are two sizeable armchairs made of wood, carved with a delicate pattern, coloured in gold and decorated with coloured stones and gemstones. They were placed next to each other - one for the prince and the other for the princess.

The most spectacular piece is the golden throne, which is a grand chair with a wooden panel standing elegantly on the back.

The wooden panel is a masterpiece of craftsmanship, magnificently engraved, coloured in gold and decorated with coloured stones.

This golden throne was brought from one of the important cities in Shan by the offspring of the ruler of that city when they immigrated to Thailand after General Newin seized power and attacked various cities in Shan.

The chair and background panel, which are quite spacious, were disassembled and hidden in a cart. They were reassembled after they reached the destination in Thailand.

As for the exhibition rooms that were renovated, one was converted into a cave, which in ancient times was used for hiding valuables during wars in order to retrieve them for use when things settled down.

A lot of good antique pieces are well displayed including many golden Oubs in perfect condition. Another renovated room is used to display costumes worn by various Tai races - Maow, Pujee, Yah, Lee, Yai, Lue, Yi, Tong, Juang, Dam, Sum Nuea as well as Palong, Kachin and Pai, which are also Tai races.

Some Chinese costumes with connections to Tai costumes and the costumes worn by the Mong tribe in Laos are also displayed for comparison.

The most outstanding one was worn in the court of Chiang Tung, which looks very elegant. Julasak has studied these costumes of the Tai races in detail and arranged this display to impress visitors on the dressing culture of the Tai races, which has been well developed for quite some time.

If any of you should ever travel to Chiang Rai, I recommend that you to spare about an hour to visit the Oub Kham Museum. Apart from admiring rare antiques, you can learn about the Lanna culture as well as Tai races in various places.

It is also a good opportunity to worship and admire rare Buddha images as explained above.

Once you see them yourself, you will understand why I appreciate the perseverance and dedication of Julasak in constructing this place to exhibit his lifetime collection for other people to appreciate and admire without being possessive.


Unfortunately no photos are allowed in the museum, but I did manage one with Ajarn Julasak Suriyachai outside his museum
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The museum is a truly amazing place & could be one of the North's best kept secrets? But it shouldn't be.
Everyone should check out this place in Chiang Rai!


2. A couple of hill top wats south of the Kok River.

Wat Doi Incee.
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The view
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Wat Mae Aep
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3. Huay Mak Liam Hot Springs
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The Huay Mak Liam springs are right beside the Kok River
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to be continued...
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Postby ianyonok » 07.08.2009, 02:14

Friends,

The Oub Kham museum is indeed one of the most interesting places to visit in Chiang Rai city. Khun Julasak started his collection many years ago, when he was dismayed at all the Lanna artifacts that were being bought by foreigners and taken out of Thailand.
He gets virtually no support from local government in running his museum, but it is thanks to people like him, that we can have an insight into how things used to be in Lanna.
Well worth supporting. He'll give you some very tasty chinese green tea when you visit too.

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Postby Davidfl » 07.08.2009, 11:42

ianyonok wrote:Friends,

The Oub Kham museum is indeed one of the most interesting places to visit in Chiang Rai city. Khun Julasak started his collection many years ago, when he was dismayed at all the Lanna artifacts that were being bought by foreigners and taken out of Thailand.
He gets virtually no support from local government in running his museum, but it is thanks to people like him, that we can have an insight into how things used to be in Lanna.
Well worth supporting. He'll give you some very tasty chinese green tea when you visit too.

Ian


Yes Ajarn Julasak is an amazing man, & also a controversial one - he has alternative theories on the history of Thailand & the Thai people; hence the lack of official support, I suspect.

But again the museum is outstanding!
Check the museum & him out
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a very fit man for 63, makes the younger GT Rider look old & wimpy. :lol: :lol:
The "tasty green Chinese tea" is also superbly refreshing.
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Postby Ally » 07.08.2009, 16:40

Good post there for the young rider ! :wink:

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Postby Davidfl » 14.08.2009, 02:06

The road to Wat Doi Incee is a steepie
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check it out sometime. It's well signposted & the views are brilliant.

After Chiang Rai it was straight up to Mae Sai to rendezvous with Rhodie, plus Peter & Thao the Wheezy Riders.
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Whilst at the Umporn Resort an SMS was sent out to David Learmonth who promptly turned up with his missus for a night of food, drink & good conversation.
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David thanks for coming along at such short notice - it was a good night.

The next morning we got some souvenir pics overlooking the Ruak river & Mae Sai for the album.
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From Mae Sai for Rhodie & I it was up R1130 & R1234 to Doi Mae Salong to rendezvous with Silverhawk. We met up at Ho's Shine Sane for a meal, then dropped into the Sweet Mae Salong for one of those first class Cappuccinos.
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Then from Mae Salong it was back track to Akha Sam Yaek; but en route Rhodie & I checked out Suan Manomai & the Phra Siam Thewath shrine, which we are still pondering the significance of. :roll:

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Above: note the different photographic styles.

And the shrine
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Thoed Thai & Rim Taan guesthouse was our goal for the night.

Rim Taan is a hidden gem of a guesthouse in North Thailand & coupled with Thoed Thai is well worth a visit (& night) if you are ever in the area
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Thoed Thai
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Late afternoon Rhodie & I went for a short ramble up the road
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Route 3051 after Thoed Thai is an awesome road & ride
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I love Thoed Thai for the traditional early morning market & it was a 6.30AM start for some piccies with Silverhawk & Rhodie.
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I like the boomerang & hat on this guy, but you could not get him to smile for the camera!
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Rhodie & Silverhawk were highly amused by the dog basket on this Dream
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After morning brekky it was the highlight of the trip & the presentation of Rhodie's photographs to the Khun Sa Museum
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Davidfl wrote:Back again..the official GT Rider presentation

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Below Left: John owner of Rim Taan guesthouse & Right "Kudun?" Khun Sa's ex Cultural Minister & now Museum Curator.
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Getting the Khun Sa run down from Kudun & John
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With the late "general" in his dining room.
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A resting place for Rhodie's Khun Sa photo collage under Khun Sa's watchful eye
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A very pleased Kudun & John
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Many important Khun Sa possesions went missing when his camp was attacked & overrun by the Thai troops in the 1982 battle to force him out of Thailand.
In 2005 a flood in Thoed Thai swept away many possessions being gathered for the museum in Kudun's house.
Many of Rhodies' photos were on display in the museum as copies from various magazine articles. John & Kudun never knew where the originals came from, or who took them; so they were extremely thrilled to get some souvenir of the founder of their village Thoed Thai, especially when it was coming from the original photographer!

The items of clothing on display in Khun Sa's bedroom are real pieces actually worn by Khun Sa, both John & Kudun assure us.
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Thoed Thai is almost a lost / forgotten “kingdom” in North Thailand & the Shan there would like people to visit their town & see the history there. Khun Sa was arguably the one who created the Golden Triangle that millions of tourists have come to see. His history & legacy in Thoed Thai should not be forgotten. It is why many people are still attracted to the place, so if you want claim you’ve been to the Golden Triangle go to Thoed Thai, spend a night at John’s Rim Taan Guesthouse & visit the Khun Sa museum. Wear a GT Rider shirt & you will be warmly welcomed!


Back at the Rim Taan guesthouse I managed some photos with John's family
John's lovely wife
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John's daughter & grandma
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We packed up then & split

1. Silverhawk off in chase of Thailasse's mystery stupa
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2. Rhodie headed back to Chiang Mai

3. I pottered around Thoed Thai for a few more photos
The biggest? bronze? Buddha
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which I think is called
Phra Song Chai Rattana Palang Paen Din
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The view from the hill overlooking Thoed Thai is pretty good & coupled with the buddha well worth a quick look see.
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to be continued
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Postby feejer » 14.08.2009, 03:27

Davidfl wrote:3. I pottered around Thoed Thai for a few more photos
The biggest? bronze? Buddha
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which I think is called
Phra Song Chai Rattana Palang Paen Din
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David,

Great stuff as usual and fine pix of Phra Song Chai Rattana Palang Paen Din. Very nice to see it coming together so well. They had not yet started the flower petal monument to the left (empty lot) and were still laying the floor tiles when I was there last Nov. Beautiful sight now.

feejer wrote:Saw a wat a little off the road and decided to check it out. Turns out it is a brand new construction with the workers there still laying the flooring and tiles for the outside gathering area. Beautiful setting and wat. The place was really out of sync with the poverty of the area. I don’t know where they are getting the money, but its going to be a great place for the local villagers to congregate for weddings and any other social gatherings.

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Postby David Learmonth » 14.08.2009, 21:46

It was a good night!
Thanks for the sms & it was good to meet the Wheezyriders - still in touch with them now & hope they are back this way soon!
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Postby Davidfl » 16.08.2009, 22:26

The weather on the way out of Thoed Thai was perfect riding weather - cool, overcast but no rain.
Time for some piccies to show you another of the North's best biking roads.

Route 3051 Akha Sam Yaek - Thoed Thai:
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I stopped at Akha Sam Yaek to SMS with David Learmonth & set up a rendezvous point Mae Chan - Chiang Saen.

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While waiting for his reply the Akha lady storekeeper kept looking at the size of the Africa Twin - she was impressed, as the bike was bigger than her. I thought great photo - her & the bike together - if I can get it without having to pay "ransom money" for her photo. I finished my M150 drink & no SMs reply. The Akha model went & looked at the bike again & I tried to chat her up a bit - not much luck. Still no SMS so I ordered another a drink - a Birdy. She went & looked at the bike again. Another line, but not much reaction. Still no SMs reply, so yet another drink - an orange juice. She goes back out to look at the bike once more & the phone rings. It's DL, we talk & agree on a rendezvous. I finish my 3rd drink & pay the bill. The Akha lady is still looking at the bike. I finally weaken & ask her straight up for a photo of her & the bike. No trouble 200 baht!! Ouch a bit more than I thought. I detail the number of drinks I've had & how much time & money I’ve spent at her shop so I should be eligible for a discount. She comes down to 100 baht. Nope, no deal. I start to put my gear on & she asks how much. 20 baht is my one & only offer. She agrees & potters out to stand next to the bike. I hand her the helmet & the crowd gathered behind me breaks out in laughter, but she won’t crack a smile at all. What a fashion model – keeps her cool no matter what!
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The job done I give her 40 baht for the photo + enjoyment & ride off.

Route 1130 Akha Sam Yaek - Mae Chan
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I met up with David Learmonth late in the afternoon for a whistle stop at his home, but true to Thai hospitality Mrs. Learmonth had prepared food & drinks. It was tops & greatly appreciated. David you've got a top cook & very caring woman there mate - you lucky man. It beats living in the UK alright doesn’t it?

David came over to Chiang Khong for night then & true to form it rained on R1129 Chiang Saen - Chiang Khong. DL had kitted up with his wet weather pants, but I'd decided to take my chances & there's no doubt he was the winner. Not me.

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In CK we checked into the air con rooms at the Tam Mi La & headed downtown to a GT Rider favourite the Easy Pub & Restaurant. This place has to be one of the best value restaurants around & I think I was the winner with a chicken steak
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It rained all night so we did not move from the Easy, however there's no doubt DL & I enjoyed ourselves chatting to the owner & the local expats.
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Postby Marco » 17.08.2009, 02:17

David

You forgot the "value" of the Huge meal
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How much was it?
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Postby Davidfl » 17.08.2009, 02:26

On the way home to Chiang Mai I lucked with the weather again & managed a run across R1150 Wiang Pa Pao - Phrao.
Some more boring road photos.....

Route 1150 the start at the Wiang Pa Pao end.
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It's a while since I've been on R1150 & had such good weather
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I was back home in Chiang Mai 4 days, then off on the Mae Hong Son loop for a week. It's wet season but I've not been getting too wet at all riding in the mountains - the luck of the game I guess.
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Postby Davidfl » 17.08.2009, 02:44

Marco wrote:David

You forgot the "value" of the Huge meal
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How much was it?


Erh, you got me, almost. I think it was 120 baht, but it's been 2 weeks now.
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Postby Captain_Slash » 17.08.2009, 04:11

A good meal David. I have eaten there myself a couple of years ago
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Postby David Learmonth » 17.08.2009, 09:52

It was a good ride out thankyou. You are welcome to the hospitality, as are any GT chaps in the area! Glad you enjoyed it.
Enjoyed the evening at Easy Bar. I had the Massaman chicken curry which was superb.DU's chicken was indeed a huge portion & he did well to finish it! I thought it was a 100 bahts but not 100% sure. Shame it rained all night long, but at least it had dried up by the time I set off for home. You are right David - it is better than the UK & I have no regrets about coming here! Look forward to next time!!!!!
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Postby Davidfl » 23.08.2009, 02:02

David Learmonth wrote:It was a good ride out thankyou. You are welcome to the hospitality, as are any GT chaps in the area! Glad you enjoyed it.
Enjoyed the evening at Easy Bar. I had the Massaman chicken curry which was superb.DU's chicken was indeed a huge portion & he did well to finish it! I thought it was a 100 bahts but not 100% sure. Shame it rained all night long, but at least it had dried up by the time I set off for home. You are right David - it is better than the UK & I have no regrets about coming here! Look forward to next time!!!!!


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