The Golden Triangle Rider

[bill]

Back in 2007 Shadow made a good report on importing a DR650 from Australia to Cambodia

http://www.gt-rider.com/thailand-motorcycle-forum/and-then-there-were--t2933.html

I'm looking at doing the same myself in the near future. Using DHL to handle things both ends (like Shadow did) seems like a hassle free option

Would be interested to hear of any recent experiences and/or recommendations for a freight forwarder/customs broker.

[JimCA2]

Dave is the only one I know who has imported a bike recently. He is currently back in Australia tending to some fire related issues. His post about getting the DR would be one of the most recent sources of info. Murray originally imported a Harley from Australia and it cost him just under a couple of grand to get it in. There are new import laws so things aren't as easy as they used to be but not impossible.

[bill]

[shadow]

To the best of my knowledge they are still using the engine size and year. With a maximum price for any bike regardless of new or used cheap or expensive invoice price.

This system works well for Cambodia as any invoice's would be fakes otherwise.

[bill]

[bill]

[bill]

A bit more news on importing a brand new bike...

I have 4 separate quotes from various customs brokers in PP and their versions of how import tax is calculated for a brand new bike.

As it turns out, 2 of the 4 brokers didn't have a clue what they were talking about and gave me the tax calculation for a secondhand bike.

I finally got the correct version from DHL and Narita Logistics.

Firstly, the CIF value is calculated.

This is Invoice cost + Insurance cost + Freight

3 taxes are then applied to the CIF value and comprise of

Duty Tax 15%
Vat 10%
Specific tax 10%

However, these taxes are compounded so it actually totals 39.15% of the CIF value

According to DHL, there is one more tax called PSI-Pre Shipment Inspection)
PSI is 10% of the CIF value.

So total tax would be 49.15% of the CIF value

According to Narita Logistics, Cambodian customs now have a data base of new vehicle prices so lying about the invoice value probably wont work anymore.

The deal for secondhand bikes is still ok and this is the deal Murray and Shadow got for their bikes. Secondhand bikes are taxed on a value determined from Year and Engine size and the customs values are quite low.

NGO's can import tax free which might be an option for some.
Otherwise you need to be well connected, or buy secondhand, or pay through the nose.



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[daewoo]

Ex-Demonstrator - or get someone to buy it in their name and sell it to you the next day for half price...

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[bill]

[Davidfl]

[bill]

David
I ended up buying a low mileage (2000miles) import from USA, DRZ400S 2007.
This was brought in by Flying Bikes who paid USD780 import tax plus customs brokers fees and shipping etc.

Its still quite reasonable to import a secondhand bike
Brand new bikes are a different story

I got quotes from 4 customs brokers for importing a brand new bike but only two of them were up to date on customs import duties for New bikes.
That was Narita and DHL .
The other two quoted me tax for secondhand bikes and didn't even know new bikes were taxed on a different system than used bikes

Tax on a brand new bike would have worked out to 49.15% of the invoice value. Since May 2009 Cambo customs have a data base of new vehicle prices so forget about understating the invoice value unless you're well connected.

All up, it would have cost me ~AUD12000 to purchase the new DRZ400E in Australia (purchase price AUD7000) and import it to Cambo including all taxes and on road costs here.
Thats about USD9500-10,000 depending on exchange rate

In comparison, late model low mileage imports from USA go for around USD5000-6000, so that's the route I eventually took.

In the old days Cambodia got some excellent imported used bikes from Japan with loads of mods on them.
Unfortunately, (for the Japanese) these were mostly stolen bikes and brought in as parts.
Customs have pretty much closed that loophole so now the US secondhand market seems to be the favorite source.

[Davidfl]

Bill
Thanks for the update.
Good to know now you're on the road with a bike of your own choice & import. Well done.
I'm sure a few guys will find the info useful.
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