The Golden Triangle Rider

[ray23]

maybe but TT ( Tis Thailand) may only be imports
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[KZ]

Hi Moto-Rex, thanks for the links, I checked them out but it's fairly basic information. Gearing is listed for the KLR but not for the Tracker, that would be one way to see how different they are. Top speed would be different, too. - Is there anybody who has ridden both bikes and can tell if they are two completely different bikes to ride or if the differences are minor? - If the Tracker's suspension is stiff and the gears are way tall, I'd opt for the KLR and put on some tires that are close to street use. I got a street bike already.
Btw, you get my vote for best avatar - I'm watching "Addam's Family" with my 9 year old daughter and she really digs them!

[KZ]

What I dislike about googling is that there's so much interesting stuff to read out there, it keeps me busy for hours but in the end I didn't get the answer I was looking for (but downloaded tons of related stuff) --- :-)
A quote I came across in some forum, dated 18 July 2008:
"Well to answer my own question, yes you can buy an all black D-Tracker in Thailand, I put my deposit on one yesterday, 155k inc VAT, green book and 3rd party insurance, have to wait 2 months for it though!"
That's cheaper than I thought!

[beddhist]

Went to the Kawa dealer in CM yesterday. The young man in the shop went out of his way to be helpful. They have already sold 20 of them but don't know yet how many they will get in the first shipment. He suggested we try a provincial dealer, as they won't be selling too many.

Rang Bkk and they said they didn't have one to sit on??? Maybe the telephonist can't see them out on the road among the crowd?

Anyway, the lowdown on the KLX250 is: 151000 registered, official launch date 20 Sept., plate takes 2 weeks, but I guess that applies to Bkk residents only.

Seeing the only bike ST Bikes had was a 16 year old Honda Degree for which they want 150000 it looks like we will be buying a KLX. If they had an XR250 for sale they would want 200000 for it...

I suspect the prices for used 250's should come down a bit, if Kawa can sell any significant number of the KLX and D-T.
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[Rhodie]

Was in Kwacker Shop Rama IX last week.
The manager let Richard ride a KLX round the car park a few times.
Quoted 149,900 OTR.
Launching 250 Ninja 20 August with KLX on 20 September.
2 weeks for 'normal' plate 4 for 'special' - I assumed this is where u choose
the number.
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[pseacraft]

I'm new to the forum and I appreciate all of the input from u guys on the KLX-250S. Seems like the perfect little bike for me. Just want something other then the normal thing for running out to our fields, playing a tad bit and around the province. Eventually I'd like to go up in scale to something more along the touring lines.

I had the wife stop in for me at the small kawa shop in Nong Khai and she walked out completely unimpressed. Not too helpful and quoted some crazy high prices. The guy there claimed 2?0K+ for the KLX-250 and 150K+ for the 110. She thought he was a bit nuts and the rest of the staff seemed only interested in their cell phones. She's going to call the shop on Rama 9 in BKK when she gets a chance. I'll have to check and see if Udorn has a kawa shop.

Eric

[ray23]

Yes Udon has shops, but the truth is you will be better served working through the shop in Bangkok. I have spoken to the lady in Bangkok myself. They will go as far a delievering the bike to you and you won't even have to go there. If you sure of what you want. They have set up a service agreement with a shop here in Udon.

This is probably going to blow your mind, but when I get my mine I will have them mail it to me.

I refuse to ride in Bangkok, to many strange rules.
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[pseacraft]

Thanks Ray!

I was thinking that was the direction I would have to go. I followed u here from another Thai forum so thanks much for leaving the bread crumbs!

Eric

[TonyBKK]

Happy to report that finally the Kawasaki Big Bike showroom in Bangkok is accepting orders for the new 2008 Ninja 250R.
Also happy to announce that the price is less than the rumored 150,000 - 180,000 price that has been floating around on various forums.
Price before tax and registration is 139,900
7% tax is 9479
They will start delivering the new bikes in the next week
Let the good times roll!
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[pseacraft]

That's a great picture! Got the right color shirt for it.

Wife talked to the Rama 9 shop this morning about the KLX-250S and was quoted the same 149,900 price. She was happy about that. She was told they can't take any orders until mid September. So I will wait like a good boy...fidgit...fidgit...

Eric

[beddhist]

The dealers are taking orders. CM had already 20 people who have put down a deposit, but they couldn't say how many bikes they would get in the first batch.
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[KZ]

GREAT NEWS! A 250 Enduro for 150K THB, with registration, that's almost too good to believe; then the Ninja 250 for even less - congrats, Kawasaki! - I've owned welover 30 bikes, but only three Kwakkers, the 250 Ninja, which is an amazing bike for its size, it revvs to 14,000 with well over 30 horses and a cool new look for 2008; a 250 KLR Enduro, which is a versatile little city/beach hopper; and a ZX9R, which I never opened up all the way, it was just too much; shifting at 9000rpm was exciting enough for me. But I'd buy a KAWASAKI now just because I want to support them for their guts to sell the first street legal bikes under 600cc in Thailand. I prefer Yamaha, but I'm not interested in any bike they offer here.
I bet this coming tourist season you will see plenty new Kawa's on the road!
Seems there is a lot of interest in the KLR, personally I prefer the the Tracker since I'll do 90% city riding. Price should be the same as the KLR?
I wonder when HONDA will follow...
What about choppers/cruisers? I'm not a fan, but the market segment is quite big and I see lots of new Phantoms, Kawasaki Boss and old Steeds. People pay up to 150K THB for a clean, but ten year old 400 Steed with papers. Why doesn't Kawasaki offer a 250/400 chopper like the Vulcan?

[ray23]

Well the 900 sure seems to fit the bill in that category. But no off road with that. Dirt roads Hey you can do that on any bike just got to slow down a bit.

I droll ever time I look at the thing. Like you I enjoy Yamaha, but there not offering anything I have an interest in. But I'm only going to buy one and that will be next year, hardly worth stocking.

Each style of bike has to be cleared for Thailand a I understand it. It's not wide open yet but certainly better then I have ever seen before
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[pseacraft]

The guy at Rama 9 told the better half they they could not take preorders. Interesting that over in CM they are. Maybe they have a max carry limit on preorders and that has already been set? Either way, I can wait until September.

Eric

[beddhist]

My partner Su just phoned me from Bkk: Kawa started taking orders as of today. Deposit is 10000B (CC accepted) and delivery "about" 20 Sept.

Looks like she managed to jump the CM queue.

They wouldn't let her ride it in the car park and there are no accessories available whatsoever.
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[johngooding]

Seen reports on Thai Visa that Kawasaki has now started delivering new 250;s and not only from Bangkok but from more local dealers as well.
Any of you guys who ordered bikes actually got one yet?

[beddhist]

Su has put the deposit down, but it's still 20th Sept. for delivery. Would be good to get it sooner, as permanent plates plus English rego could take up to 6 weeks.
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[TonyBKK]

Woo Hoo!

Love my new Kawasaki Ninja 250R!


Picked her up Monday afternoon and made it home in rush hour Bangkok traffic- that was exciting but not something I'm in a hurry to repeat.

Funny about the manufacturer telling us to break in our bikes gently and not exceed 4000 RPM, because the mechanics at the Kawasaki shop on Rama 9 were winding 'em WAY up in the parking lot.

Anyway- the new Ninjas come with a 2 year warranty, so what the hel_l, I'm subscribing to the hard break-in theory and if something gives, well...

Work and rain kept me from riding yesterday, but today I did well over 200Km

My a$$ is sore!!! I think for distance riding an after market seat may be a good idea.

Anyway- I wanted to find some twisty roads to really get a feel for how the 250R handles, and the only place I could think of that's kind of close is Khao Yao National Park.

I found a nice way to get there:


For folks in Bangkok just take Ramkamhaeng all the way till it ends, then right on Suwintawong (Highway 304), and left when you reach Highway 3481. Good roads all the way!

That Highway 3077 through Khao Yai to Pak Chong is a thing of beauty! Got the tires worn right out to the edges on the twisties and the Baby Ninja handled like a dream. Very light and quick yet stable over bumps and ripples in the pavement.



Since I was riding solo I couldn't get any "action" shots... That'll have to wait until another time.

This is the smallest bike I've ever owned, yet for riding in Thailand the power is adequate. What this bike lacks in horsepower it makes up for in handling and a hard to define "fun factor".

This is also the first Fuel Injected motorcycle I've ever owned, and from everything I've read the FI version is quite superior to the carburated version they sell in the US. Throttle response is crisp and immediate, and there's no more choke to worry about.

I prefer small windy roads and that's where this bike excels- a very firm suspension gives a good feel of the road. The suspension is adjustable for preload. This little engine does best over 6000 RPM. The stock exhaust has a nice little rumble in the lower RPM's.

The seat did a number on my rear, but that's probably because I haven't ridden in a few years. I think I'll get used to it. If not I know there are some aftermarket options.

Riding position is roomy and fairly upright (for a sport bike) with not too much weight on the arms and wrists. Turning is quick and effortless. Light clutch, easy shifting, solid brakes, and killer good looks- I'm a very happy rider!

Anyway- anyone want to get out this weekend and ride? Can't decide where to go- so many choices!

Let the good times roll!

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[KZ]

Good on ya, Tony! A new bike is like a new life! I'm envious!
I had a 250 Ninja years ago and it turned me into a little racer. Funny how certain bikes make you do things you never thought you had in you... What's the top speed on it? Does it do 160km/h? I remember mine did 95mph (which should be about 150km/h) on a straight. But maybe you should wait with going top speed...
beddhist, what kind of bike did Su put a deposit on? Kawa has been taking orders for over a month on the 250s, as far as I've read. They should be ready for pick-up now.

[beddhist]

KZ, I think you are talking about the Ninja. She put the money on a KLX. That and the D-Tracker will be delivered "about" 20th of Sept.
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[monsterman]

Triumph have done a deal to extend the Amata Nakorn factory but as part of the deal the Thai government has asked Triumph to develop a sub 500cc probably a 250cc for the thai market . the new factory build will be started next year with a projected production of !00,000 bikes a year from 2012 which is 2 times Triumphs current production.

I reckon a 250 twin and a 500cc parralel twin could be on the cards.
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[KZ]

Posted: 23.08.2008, 13:53 Post subject:

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My partner Su just phoned me from Bkk: Kawa started taking orders as of today. Deposit is 10000B (CC accepted) and delivery "about" 20 Sept.

Yes, delivery of the 250 KLX and D-Tracker should be 20th of September, but they've been taking orders for a couple of monyhs already. Whatever, it's great that they're available, looks like the demand is there and the first shipment is sold...
Concerning Triumph building a 250, I can't see that, a 500 maybe. I predict the new cruiser will be a sales flop, who wants a 1600cc parallel-twin cruiser?

[Rhodie]

[KZ]

I'm still interested in the difference of the KLX250 to the D-Tracker - specs are almost identical, of course, only the length changed since the rims are smaller on the Tracker. Therefore the brake discs are a bit bigger. Steering head angle should be slightly different. Gearing is the same, but the sprockets differ: 39/14 on the Enduro, 42/14 on the Supermoto.
How would three more teeth in the rear affect the pick-up and top speed?
I've watched a few movies of the Tracker doing wheelies on youtube and I'm sure this is the bike I want!

[Bush Pilot]

I stopped in there this morning.
They were quoting prices of 170K for the enduro and d-tracker, 150K for the baby Ninja. All three appear to be fuel injected models.