Motorcycle Chains

[daewoo]

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back to the lube topic...

I clean the chain with a kerosene soaked rag, then re-oil with a silicone based lube... If the chain is particularly dirty, I will use kerosene in a trigger type spray bottle to clean it even better before re-lubing...

I do believe that most of the function of lubing is to keep the grit away from the o-rings... You want to clean the chain, but not with a solvent, because you need to leave a layer of something to stop things from rusting... then you want to keep a layer of something, to stop things from rusting, and also so that when it heats up, it will run towards the seals...

but IMHO you don't want 'oil or grease' because it attracts and retains dirt and grime, and that too works it's way into the o-rings, breaking them down, and letting the most important grease out resulting in eventual chain failure...

You also want the chain to slide on and off the sprockets with minimum friction, so the layer of something needs to the a lubricant as well as a rust barrier...

I don't like the idea of WD40, because it washes the other lube away, and therefore the only lube left is the thin layer of very fine WD40 oil, which also builds up grime very quickly...

I reckon that a silicone spray fits the bill pretty well...

Cheers,
Daewoo

[Naz]

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where do you getting kerosene? im using diesel if i decide to clean it

then wd40 here is pricey (at least in home pro 200 baht for can if i remember)

im using veloil chain lube which they are using at kawi's service, but i getting it for 75 baht\can in local shop instead of overpriced in kawi
it has great penetrating power its sparkling while sprayed on, i using it as a rust inhibitor as well, and thing does great. has greeny colour first which dissapears after sprayed.
it does fling off little by little but its actually required for me as im riding in dirts a lot.

locals asking to donate them worked out oil after changing it, so they have something to lube their chains for free, those who using it -ride with black chains, those who not with- black\orange ones

[cdrw]

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Naz;269665] wrote:
where do you getting kerosene?
***Kerosene is "namH manM gaatH" (the capital letters H & M refer to high & medium tones). Kerosene is available, at most hardware and paint stores

then wd40 here is pricey
***I don't use WD40...due to some sites having negative reports for using it on chains. Do a search and arrive at your own conclusion.

im using veloil chain lube
***Maybe consider using automatic transmission fluid (ATF) instead. Cheap to buy, works fine. Up to you.

[monsterman]

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Ducati workshop manuals say WD40 or Kerosene/Parafin is OK

[Fishenough]

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Bumping this thread.

Anyone have a recommendation for a 520 x-ring chain available in Chiang Mai? I've only found the Piston shop to carry stock, any other ideas?

From here

If anyone wants x-ring chains in 520 or 525 size, PM me, prices are ;

X-ring chain 520- 120 link USD$37.95
X-ring chain 525- 120 link USD$39.95

Postage extra.

Manufactured here in Thailand, they are Asahi brand, and are an impressive chain. I have only ever used the non o-ring chains they make, and on a 250cc four stroke dirt bike and I'm very impressed with them. Prior to using them I used RK (gold) brand chains, and noticed considerable stretch after only a couple of rides, even though I looked after the chain really well (cleaned, lubed regularly). In fact with this Asahi chain I've got on the bike now, I've started treating it like an o-ring because it hasn't shown signs of wear.

[jusu777]

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Does anyone know if there are any places here in Thailand to buy Wurth high performance dry chain lube? This should be very good stuff and it should keep the chain much cleaner than normal "sticky" lubricants.

Jusu

[crsaddlebags]

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Hello all. I am Woraphat at Chiang Rai Saddlebags. We have had several inquiries as to whether or not Veloil Chain Spray Lube is safe for o-ring style chains. We have forwarded this question to the Veloil company. After a long wait, Paul Rogers at Veloil has replied to us via e-mail with the answer. After in-house testing of Veloil on various o-rings used in chains, Paul tells us that they have determined that Veloil Chain Spray Lube is safe for o-ring style chains.

[David Learmonth]

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That is useful to know! Thankyou. I usually get my chain spray sent up from Bangkok or brought over from UK.

[Jedi Biker]

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Chain lubes can be loosely classified into fling and non-fling. Fling being those that are more liquid in texture and will fly off the the chain. Non-fling are the lubes that are more adhesive than their fling counterparts and often comes as sprays. Fling lubes penetrate better but are less adhesive once the chain starts moving when compared to non-fling lubes.

Veloil Chain Lube is easily available and retails for about 70-80 baht per 200 ml can. I prefer this over the 400-500 baht Motul or Putoline! It is convenient to carry either under the seat or in a tank bag. A good rule of thumb is to use it every 300 kms. Best to do it immediately after a ride when the chain is warm to let the lube sink in. If the chain gets exposed to wet riding conditions, lube immediately (doesn't matter if the chain was lubed just 10 mins ago)! Little dollops (or sprays) of lube should be applied in the inner circumference of the chain to reduce the possibility of fling. Using little dollops also minimizes lube going on the tires. A simple method to prevent any lube going on the tire is to fold a 7-11 plastic bag in the size of a small tissue. Hold it behind the area of the chain that is being lubed.

SAE 90 is considered to be a good lube as it is thicker than oils normally used to lube the chain. It is inconvenient to carry it around all the time when compared to spray chain lubes. Here is a suggestion - after a long ride and if bike is dirty, put on liberal amounts of fling lube such as SAE 90 oil. Ride a little, let the excess fling off. Then wash the bike and put on non-fling (spray) chain lube )

NOTE: WD-40 (WD stands for Water Displacement) is an anti corrosion agent not a chain lubricant. Sonax is similar to WD-40. Being lighter and highly viscous, they fling off more than fling lubes!

[Sharktooth]

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Since moving to Chiang Mai I don't really have the area to lube my chain myself, i.e the parking area in the condo building is sparklingly clean and I don't really wanna get Offsprays of veloil everywhere. Is there anywhere trustworthy in CM to take the bike to where they will properly clean the chain and lube it and should I bring my own lube. By the way, my Thai is pish, so I need to go somewhere they will understand me. Cheers.