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    Sachs X-Road 250:




    This bike has potential, mag wheels and tubeless tyres for starters

    I have heard that the price is only going to be around the 100K mark

    Perhaps mbox999 has some more details about it to share with us

    Hopefully it will be in the shops soon

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    Wow great, now we have 2x Tiger/Sachs Forum. So that'll keep me busy posting on both now

    In regards of the Sachs x-road 250. It is not yet available and currently undergoes emission tests. Once done it shall be available here. This has been earlier explained to me ( dec 2009) it shall for sure happen in 2010, it will be the carbed version and the price is around the 100000 thb . Later, on an yet undisclosed date, there shall also be an FI version x-road for an higher price.

    I very much like the look of this bike ...chances are that i get one myself too..but the Ktm's are also giving me a rush

    Happy trails,

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    mbox999 wrote
    it shall for sure happen in 2010, it will be the carbed version and the price is around the 100000 thb . Later, on an yet undisclosed date, there shall also be an FI version x-road for an higher price.
    This is interesting about it coming out as a carbed version as from february Thailand is adopting the Euro 3 emissions and all the carbed Hondas are no longer available for the dealers to order. The Phantom, CBR 150 etc are currently unavailable until the FI models are released unless you can find a carbed one already in a dealers as they are still allowed to sell existing stock. So as the Sachs isnt yet out on the market I wonder how they are being allowed to sell it, mind you it hasnt passed the emissions yet by the sound of it

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    Very, very nice bike!
    I'm impatient to see it in flesh...
    IMHO it could easily walk "on the D-Tracker's suedin shoes" if quality and specs are OK: more "original and rocking" design...
    I do like its rear mufler under the seat!

    Any idea of the specs already mbox?
    Carb for Euro3 specs: is it possible?

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by gobs
    Very, very nice bike!
    I'm impatient to see it in flesh...
    IMHO it could easily walk "on the D-Tracker's suedin shoes" if quality and specs are OK: more "original and rocking" design...
    I do like its rear mufler under the seat!

    Any idea of the specs already mbox?
    Carb for Euro3 specs: is it possible?

    Cheers,
    Gobs
    Hi Gobs, i have seen it in flesh a few month back at Tigers Factory( i sat on it too, but no drive) and it really looks nice and the sitting felt all fine too. The rear muffler is another thing i really like too. I have no specs available as yet...but will post it as soon as i get them (on tigersachsclub dot com's forum & gt-rider's tiger sachs forum - and of course ssr forum)
    I am not sure if the carb will fit for euro3 ...maybe if they make it able to run e20?(this is pure speculation/guessing from me) ,

    happy trails,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Slash
    mbox999 wrote
    it shall for sure happen in 2010, it will be the carbed version and the price is around the 100000 thb . Later, on an yet undisclosed date, there shall also be an FI version x-road for an higher price.
    This is interesting about it coming out as a carbed version as from february Thailand is adopting the Euro 3 emissions and all the carbed Hondas are no longer available for the dealers to order. The Phantom, CBR 150 etc are currently unavailable until the FI models are released unless you can find a carbed one already in a dealers as they are still allowed to sell existing stock. So as the Sachs isnt yet out on the market I wonder how they are being allowed to sell it, mind you it hasnt passed the emissions yet by the sound of it
    Hi captain, you are right that the sachs x-road hasn't passed the test yet...but i am sure they find legal ways to get it done...another option that i recall from prrevious discussions & suggestions was the idea to have a bike run on e85(or making it fuel flexible)? Would a carbed version bike running on e85 pass the euro 3 emissions? I don't know but maybe? Time will tell..and will update once i have more info.

    happy trails,

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    Some more pics and specs for the Sachs X-Road 250-



    Good lookin' bike!



    Really the only thing I don't like is the tiny and cheap looking digital display...


    Specs:


    Anyone have the HP and Torque figures for the D-Tracker handy? Curious to see how these 250's compare.

    For me the X-Road definitely LOOKS like the better of the two and it should be quite a bit cheaper than the Kwacker.

    Ride On!

    Tony
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    An 11 litre fuel tank, thats good, plus a rack that wasnt there on the earlier photos. The more I see of this bike the more I like it, hopefully it will be of a good reliable quality, its definitely a possible replacement for my Phantom when the time comes

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    Quote Originally Posted by gobs
    Very, very nice bike!

    I do like its rear mufler under the seat!


    Cheers,
    Gobs
    Under seat mufflers look great, BUT, here in this hot country, when moving slowly, they do cook some of the more important parts of the body, and lead to very sweaty thighs!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johngooding
    Quote Originally Posted by gobs
    Very, very nice bike!

    I do like its rear mufler under the seat!


    Cheers,
    Gobs
    Under seat mufflers look great, BUT, here in this hot country, when moving slowly, they do cook some of the more important parts of the body, and lead to very sweaty thighs!!
    Hi John,
    You have a point but look at those pictures again ...where is the driver sitting and where is the exhaust/muffler? Based on that i really don't think that it will affect the Driver


    The pillion,however, may get a bit warm ...but me thinks the driver will stay as cool as on any other bike.
    Time will tell...once we got the bike available we will know more.
    happy trails,

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    Hi Mbox
    Yes, see what you are saying, although the hottest bit the exhaust pipe is coming right up between the legs. I mention the heat because of recent experience with the Yamaha R1, two underseat mufflers, very pretty, but a big negative for me was how hot and sweaty I was getting when moving slower in traffic. Maybe the Sachs, being much lower powered will not develop so much heat and it will not be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johngooding
    Quote Originally Posted by gobs
    Very, very nice bike!

    I do like its rear mufler under the seat!


    Cheers,
    Gobs
    Under seat mufflers look great, BUT, here in this hot country, when moving slowly, they do cook some of the more important parts of the body, and lead to very sweaty thighs!!
    Ah, just love hearing about John's sweaty thighs... Thank you for sharing John

    I think an air cooled 250cc thumper is going to run a whole lot cooler than a Yamaha R1 :P

    Hope mbox will let us know when this bike will be available for test rides. I'm very interested!

    Ride On!

    Tony
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    I understand what you mean, John, as on the FZ6F mufler(s) is (are) under the seat, and very near under the rear part! No "sweaty sights" for me as the driver, even in city traffic...
    But as pillion, it may be a bit hot, I confess

    By the way, on the X-Road 250, maybe better not to go shopping and bring back home some ice-creams or smelly cheese on the rear rack!


    But IMHO, it's a detail on a fun bike...

    As Tony, I feel very tempted...
    Wait and see!
    Cheers
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    hope



    Many good solutions - and I love the low wet weight of under 122 kg. Add the right set of gears and this baby will be fun to ride!

    SACHS means German engineering and a proud past. MBOX, you said it's the world's oldest motorcycle maker??

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by hs0zfe
    Many good solutions - and I love the low wet weight of under 122 kg. Add the right set of gears and this baby will be fun to ride!

    SACHS means German engineering and a proud past. MBOX, you said it's the world's oldest motorcycle maker??

    Chris
    Hi chris,

    i read that on a Motorbike website ,that sachs was the oldest Motorbike manufacturer...when i now checked on wiki i found the Sachs is one of the oldest motorcycle manufacturer...it means ,there maybe some who are actually older i guess....so it may not be the oldest...but it's still very old
    And you're right it's still German engineering , and no matter where that parts come from they sure enforce their German QC on it.

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    mbox999 wrote
    and no matter where that parts come from they sure enforce their German QC on it.
    Thats the most important thing to me in a bike, good quality and reliability, its no use having the biggest, fastest, newest, flashiest bike if it keeps on breaking down

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    can the Sachs be seen at the tiger factory on the 27th??



    There are so many potholes even on some highway (like Bangna - Trat) that an enduro is a good choice for Thailand.

    the Sachs has a new frame, is light and if the gearbox is good for the engine's characteristic, then we have a winner here!

    I wonder if any rental shops consider offering the Tiger boxer 250 RS and this enduro in the future?

    Chris

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    Hoping for a test ride of the Sachs X-Road 250 at the factory visit next month. If it can hold it's own against the Kawasaki D-Tracker and KLX 250 in performance and reliability then it will surely enjoy great success in Thailand.
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    Attempt to capture the X-Road engine's sound on video



    [youtube:3m5epbaz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qGcLbOvGng[/youtube:3m5epbaz]

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