XTZ1200 Super Tenere Launch - Istanbul

[Rhodie]

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A rather bland UJM version of the GS imo.
At an expected price in Europe of €15K,
I can't see them undercutting the BMW GS here by anything,
were they to choose to import it.


The stats, tho in Turkish, show 261 kg & 110bhp.
And a 23 litre fuel capacity.
17" rear 19" front.
Apart from the weight - its 30-40 or so kg heavier that the GS,
The specks are in many ways similar.






The panniers don't look as tho they would with stand much of a knock,
let alone spill.







Interesting spoke set up for tubeless tyres.

Overall rather underwhelming
But nobody's ridden nor written up a test yet.

[Ian Bungy]

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Thanks for That Rhodie Great Photos!!!
I Like it, Looks Fantastic and I bet it is a Pleasure to Ride. And Finally someone else with Spoked Tubeless Rims, Well Done Yamaha!!!
I am Sure they would Sell in Thailand if it was sold here but would all depend on the Price as it up against Real Stiff Competition now with the New Models of BMW, KTM and the Fantastic New Ducati MultiStrada coming soon

[Rhodie]

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Apologies - pix now resized.
Didn't get off the plane until early this a.m.
Not sure Yam have their pricing nor the weight
competitive to BMW.

here's some PR guff
http://www.yamaha-motor-europe.com/super-tenere/

[Pikey]

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Like the other offerings from Suzuki & Honda, I reckon it's FUGLY!!!

If I were in the market for that style of bike AND money/availability were no object, I'd go for the new Duke Multistrada. If I were on more of a budget, the MG Stelvio would be a nice proposition.

Cheers,

Pikey.

[Franz]

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Me thinks the pricing of the 'Super XT' will be somewhere around THB 700 and 800k. don't htink they would make this bike more expensive than the 800 Beemer or their own R1 or FJR.
Jeff does 'fugly' mean this word usually exists in a pair .......?? Agree only that it can't compete with your Bonnie , therefor it was among the 10 chosen this CNX Toy Ride, but not because of the bike but because of the monkey up front your forks .......5555; cheers, Franz

[Moto-Rex]

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Thanks for the update Rhodie, and great pix.

What a stunning looking bike, and the best thing is at last in this class, there's a quality made motorcycle, with the renowned reliability, that it seems only a Japanese bike manufacturer can deliver, which will undoubtedly give the owner true piece of mind when touring in out of the way places, which is something that's unheard of when you own a European brand bike.
Only thing I don't get, is why 30-40kgs heavier. Can this be true Rhodie?

Moto-Rex

[Rhodie]

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Only thing I don't get, is why 30-40kgs heavier. Can this be true Rhodie?

Moto-Rex

BMW claimed weights for
R1200GS Dry 203kg - Wet 229kg with 20 litre tank.
R1200GSA Dry 223kg - Wet 256kg with 33 litre tank

Yamaha 261kg [my Turkish is not good enough to translate data posted
but I am assuming "Wet weight"] with 23 litre tank.
But this is a liquid cooled engine with two side mounted rads which accounts for some of it.

I'm inclined to agree with Pikey about it's looks - that there's a little Varadero
trying to escape its Bavarian lederhosen.
If the bike is to be true dual-sport/enduro you would think that Yamaha
would have a set of engine sidepanel guards as well as [front] indicators!
The boxes are certainly not as robust as TT's basic but solid Zegas.

Prices being quoted in Europe €15k+ / UK £13.5k+ are similar to std BMW GS.

The Ambassador is right to mention Ducati's all-new Multistrada,
which is due in country around July, THB1m [std] - 1.2m with the trick bits.
KTM's pricing policy, at the moment, defies comparison.

[Pikey]

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Jeff does 'fugly' mean this word usually exists in a pair .......??

Indeed Franz, "fugly" is the polite way of putting it. Actually, I should qualify my thoughts - like the V-Strom and the Varadero, the front end just looks all bulbous and "wrong" to me when compared to the European offerings and even the now-defunct Buell Ulysees. Probably a great bike but for me, how a bike looks is a big part of the attraction.

Agree only that it can't compete with your Bonnie , therefor it was among the 10 chosen this CNX Toy Ride, but not because of the bike but because of the monkey up front your forks .......5555; cheers, Franz

The monkey was put on the forks to compliment with the one in the saddle

Cheers,

Pikey.

[Captain_Slash]

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Yes those tubeless spoke wheels are a brilliant idea and a shame that it only seems to appear on a couple of top of the range bikes

[Rhodie]

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Fully laden with all the boxes, bag & bars.

Looking more like a GS with every further revelation.

Colin I would agree with you that tubless are best but I would be concerned by those wheel rim webs,
for the spoke termination don't look too strong either.
The back wheel is by far the worst offender but I guess Yamaha have done their calculations.
They definately look a weak spot for me but as most of these, like most GS's, will only ever see tarmac,
it probably won't be an issue for many.

Yamaha's Tenere vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxK677pPCcA

[Captain_Slash]

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John I had a Honda XL600LMF in the mid eighties with the same tubeless spoke set up and rode over 70000 km on it with no problems

[Rhodie]

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I don't doubt you Colin, but I'd be interested in seeing what set up you had.
All I could find on your Honda was this, which are tubed.
http://www.motorbikespecs.net/index....463&make=Honda
Only because I have been looking for a tubeless solution for the Scrambler for years.
And the GS approach didn't seem right for the Scram.

These Italian guys have been promissing but have yet to deliver
http://www.alpinaraggi.it/eng/prodotti.php

The GS's spokes, as you know, go to the outer edge of the rims.
The Yam solution is an interesting one going to a centreline ridge,
and it will be good to see how it works out, as that's a heavy bike.

[Captain_Slash]

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Heres the English specifications

Yamaha XT1200Z Super Ténéré Specifications

ENGINE
Type: Liquid-cooled, 4-stroke, DOHC, inline 2-cylinder, 4-valve, fuel injected, twin spark engine
Displacement: 1199cc
Bore x stroke: 98 x 79.5 mm
Compression ratio: 11.0:1
Firing intervals: 270- and 450-degree points
Max. Power: 80.9kW (110PS) @7,250rpm
Max. Torque: 114.1 Nm (11.6kgf･m) @6,000 rpm
Lubrication system: Dry sump
Fuel supply system: Fuel Injection
Clutch type: Wet, multiple-disc diaphragm spring
Ignition system: Twin spark
Starter system: Electric
Transmission system: Constant mesh, 6-speed
Final transmission: Shaft
Throttle system: Yamaha Chip-Controlled Throttle (YCC-T)
Yamaha D-MODE: 2 modes, Sport (S) and Touring (T)
Traction control: 3 modes, TCS1, TCS2 and OFF
Exhaust System: 2-into-1

CHASSIS
Frame: Steel tube backbone
Front suspension: Upside-down telescopic fork, 43 mm inner tube, adjustable preload, compression and rebound damping
Front wheel travel: 190 mm
Rear suspension: Monoshock, adjustable preload and rebound damping
Rear wheel travel: 190 mm
Front brake: Hydraulic Twin 310 mm wave discs, ABS/Unified Brake System
Rear brake: Hydraulic Single 282 mm wave disc
Front tyre: 110/80/19
Rear tyre: 150/70/17

DIMENSIONS
Overall length: 2,250 mm
Overall width: 980 mm
Overall height: 1,410 mm
Seat height: Adjustable 845-870 mm
Wheelbase: 1,540 mm
Min. ground clearance: 205 mm
Wet weight: 261 kg (includes full oil and fuel tank):
Fuel capacity: 23 litres

[KZ]

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I don't understand the fascionation with big heavy travel bikes like this one - I wouldn't want to take a ride on it for free, you'd have to pay me for it!
Can't imagine riding anything else than highway with this thing; even though they're designed for "adventure" I'd have difficulties to take this monster onto a wet camp ground. Must be a drag to handle with its 260kg and all those suitcases on it.
Lots of people seem to like 'em, though, but give me an old XT500 and a day pack, that's my idea of adventure!

[whitehead]

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I like it a lot but its crazy priced even in the UK - I think it should have been aimed at least 2000 GBP below the GS

[skybluestu]

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