Normally the Sachs "offsprings" ( ie Kikass & Madass) have a 2 years warranty ( no mileage limit) and i would assume the same for the X-road ,but i am awaiting for confirmation from tiger motors.
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Normally the Sachs "offsprings" ( ie Kikass & Madass) have a 2 years warranty ( no mileage limit) and i would assume the same for the X-road ,but i am awaiting for confirmation from tiger motors.
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Will post here about the bike as soon as i have the first couple of 100 km done with it.Originally Posted by DaRider
It sure looks nice! What kind of warranty do you get with it?
alexbrouwer1, I'm really looking forward to hear about your first impressions of the bike.
I hope you'll keep us posted..
As per info given today, Tiger Motors had decided to give 3 years or 30000 km warranty on all the Bikes offered since 2011 . Normally the Sachs "offsprings" would have been 2 years warranted but an extra year added is very good news.
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Hi there as correction to some specs
I checked the seat height today on Alex's x-road it is 845mm .Alex is 190cm and i am 178cm and both of us were very comfy on that bike. As you can see they painted the engine mount Black Matt which looks quite alright . Also, they included a Balance shaft on the x-road engine which means it is pretty smooth ( actually surprisingly smooth) .
Alex and myself did ride his X-road and both found it very comfy and smooth. The gear was perhaps a bit firm to change but it could be as it needs to wear in . It was nice to ride it but we also felt that something was holding it back .....our evil minds started already going what can be done to make this baby fly ( ie change or empty muffler , perhaps a bigger manifold...or airfilter needs some work, perhaps re-jetting...)
We also managed to run through bumps on the x-road and they were very well absorbed. There was someone posting on some Forums that the Tank is too big or wide or whatever...i can not feel anything being wrong about this tank , seating position or comfort at all ( i already knew that from the previos x-road test i did , but also had a specific look about this ). It feels a lot more comfy than the d-trackers seating.
The x-road was closely inspected from alex and myself , there were some very minors that we spotted ( and with minor we mean very small things, also Khun pariya was with us and noting all this ), they will be sorted and by Friday or Saturday Alex will have his X-road at his Home.
here some pictures of today:
Alex & X-road
All in all it was very nice to have a good look on the bike and meeting up with Alex. Hope we meet up in the future riding our x-road's too
happy trails,
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The visit yesterday to the Tiger factory was a very pleasant one, meeting there with Khun Pariya and Mbox. Really impressed with what i saw there.
We did yesterday about 5-6 km totally around the Tiger factory on the X-road, and the bike was a good ride.
Suspension was good and comfortable for normal road use, the seat was a big surprise, much better then a D-tracker seat, very comfortable.
About the fueltank being to big, i thought it was okay how it is now, not to big. The dashboard is just a simple digital one with only a little information.
The brakes are very good, standard are steel braided brake lines on the bike.
As Mbox already said, there are a few little things that were picked up (some already noticed by Tiger theirselves) and will be sorted out.
Biggest issue was we both felt that the engine was not delivering full power, but holding back.
Tiger will put the bike on the test bench (Fuchs) and see how the power and torque curve is.
The little luggage rack on the back of the bike was a new design and looks much better then the original design on the first pictures.
But in general not bad at all for a first bike build by Tiger.
As it looks now the bike will be delivered to my house on Saturday.
Another ride that really surprised Mbox and myself was the big scooter, the Gmax 150, a very nice ride. If you are looking for a PCX kind of scooter, then you should have a look at this Gmax too before you make a decision, specially with the reconditioned ones Tiger has for sale for a discounted price (with low kilometers).
Congratulations on the new X-Road Alex!
Hope I can come down and take it for a spin one of these fine days
I have to say it's a very nice bike to look at- wonder if it performs as well as it looks?
I think those are new grips and bar ends, yes? NICE!
And it comes with steel lines stock? NICE!
The new luggage rack comes standard? NICE!
Hell of a value for only 89-99k Baht with a THREE year warranty!
Happy Trails!
Tony
ps. Make sure they don't forget to include your mirrors!
The Large Print Giveth, and the Small Print Taketh Away
Tony, The x-road also comes with rear view mirrors but i think it will be mounted after it is being delivered in order to avoid breakage.
What you see on the last pictures is all included: handlebar ends, the steel lines, luggage rack.
About the performance, it felt a bit restricted so there is definitely more juice available than we felt yesterday.
I am pretty sure this Baby can fly tooSome mod is in order...but it'll see the Dyno also, to have this better tuned.
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Tony, i am already looking for mirrors with LED blinkers, get rid of the original blinkers, i think it will look much better.
http://www.cyccon.com they got some nice mirrors with blinkers.
Thats a interesting thought....i used to have x-road mirrors on my Boxer 250 and found them actually quite alright : http://www.gt-rider.com/thailand-mot...l=1#post248531
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Be careful of the size of some of the mirrors with turn signals. I ordered a set from the US. They were nice having turn signals in front and back and tear drop shape. When I got them I thought they looked a little small and I installed them on the fury. I liked them for the turn signals, you could see you had the signal on but as far as seeing behind you they were useless. I took them back off and put the stock ones on and have them up for sale now.
If it has Tits or Wheels it will give you problems
That's great news that the X-Road is finally available! I wrote that I thought they wouldn't offer it because of the CBR250R which is only 10K more, as far as I know.
I stand corrected!
What's the story, why did Sachs back out and Tiger take over?
Is it only available at Tiger in Bangkok?
Are there any dyno numbers? Would be a joke if an air-cooled 235cc 2 valve SOHC engine produces the same power as the D-Tracker!
I'm interested in a long-term test to see how the bike holds up after 20,000km.
I'd paint the rear subframe black so the red would be from steering head to the rear axle in only one direction.
Last edited by KZ; 4th June 2011 at 11:57 PM.
KZ,
The story of Sachs and Tiger is kind of confusing but it was later decided that Tiger will sell the X-road , madass & kikass without the Sachs Logo. However Tiger & SFM Gmbh ( Sachs germany) are in good relation- just Sachs Trademark holder(Hongkong) and a middleman company ( FYM, which discontinued their Factories and became 5r motors, a trading company) is where the problem lies.
First thing Tiger did they raised the warranty from 2 years Sachs warranty, to Tiger Motors 3years or 30000km warranty. And Tigers Service is already well known,i guess.
The X-road can be ordered online here: http://www.tigermotorbikes.com/tigershop.htm and thus available nationwide.
No dyno nr's available. We are still quite new with the X-road so it's teething time ...hope not too many teething aches
Anyways, i look forward in getting my X-road on 21st June
happy trails,
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Is there any chance of a dealer selling the X-Road in Chiang Mai?
Hi Colin i answered your question here: http://www.gt-rider.com/thailand-mot...l=1#post268668
In CM there is currently only a service Center ( servicing bikes only but not selling bikes) , there used to be a dealership but Tiger had ongoing issues with them so they no longer are a dealership.
If you pass Nakhonsawan end of June (or later) let me know i should have my x-road by then ,so you can check it out
cheers, mbox
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"Biggest issue was we both felt that the engine was not delivering full power, but holding back."
Seems to me that the hoses on the right side of the engine are part of some emission nonsense to get the carbed bike legal.
I bet my neighbors dog that if you figure out how to get rid of that plumbing the bike will run way better!
KZ, i think you have some good points.
Alex (and myself) thought that different airfilter (K&N perhaps) some carb re-jetting and a different (or emptied) muffler will make this baby fly . Anyways i will get mine in 14 days and see how it goes "stock" first.
Here some Video of the x-road 125 that runs without muffler :
What kind of dog does your neighbor have ?
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I had a California model XR650L which came with hoses and a pump, the bike ran terrible. Just taking that stuff off, plugging the holes and reconnecting the hoses improved the bike more than the K&N air filter, main jet and Supertrapp I installed later.
hoses and pumps.... what system was that? more info might be helpfull....
Hi Naz, i was also mentioning this topic here and one feedback that pretty much matches what KZ said: http://tigersachsclub.com/Forum/view...start=10#p7290
I will ride mine here(http://www.gt-rider.com/thailand-mot...rst-impression) leaving it stock for a bit but in the future i will likely try to get more horses/speed out of it which i am certain is possible.
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