My Tiger X-road 250 has arrived - pictures and first impression

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Well, my x-road, as much as i loved it , i had perhaps given it too much of a hard time .
So recently i discovered some very soft front and rear shocks and the final drive finally through out the chain while i was riding it ...lucky that was only 2 km from home .
Tiger took the Bike to factory and checked .... so they offered me to either fix it with new parts but said they don't know if the Bike is keeping up if kept ridden as i did (well they didnt say it in that way but was merely between lines) - which in a way was probably really a bit too bumpy / hard and too deep-water But generally said i would have expected it to "survive" my riding .And as we (Khun Pariya,Khun Piti & myself) spoke about this ,as well as my needs have somewhat changed i will get now a Gmax 150......
so bye bye my beloved x-road 250 looking forward to the new Auto-Scooter,

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Wow, I thought they would have been Tougher than that? The Gmax 150 is a cool looking Scooter though! Enjoy!

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Ian, i thought so too specially the shocks seem to be pretty weak for a motard .... but they maybe sufficient for light bumpy town riding ...but this i can do with a Gmax too .One thing i did realise , i will not buy a Motard again , but may find myself on an small offroader such as KLX to play "dirty" ..... the ktm freeride 350 would be great

Yes the Gmax 150 is a nice Scooter ...i tested it before and suits me well...will open another thread about my Gmax 150 .

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So after six months and a few thousand km the bike is in a condition that it's a good idea to trade it in for a scooter?

I don't want to sound mean but a dealer telling me that their product can't take my riding style seems like BS to me!

Don't take it personal, I've bought a cheap Malaysian JRD which gave me lots of trouble and I was glad to be rid of it after one year/10,000 km.

At the moment I'm helping my friend to get rid of his dead Platinum 175. That reinforced my position of never again buying anything non-Japanese.
You may pay more but you get way better quality.

Chinese products look quite good on the showroom floor but don't compare with known brand products - yet.

Thanks for posting your experience with this Tiger/Sachs model - I hope you fare better with the scooter!

Interestingly both the X-Road and the Platinum are Enduros with 175/230cc for 50 to 60,000 THB - unfortunately no comparable Japanese products available. Kawasaki's Boss chopper has a spunky little engine; I'd buy a KLX 175 for 85,000 THB. But that would take sales away from their overpriced KLX125.

A Honda CRF250L for 100,000 THB would be a winner!

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So after six months and a few thousand km the bike is in a condition that it's a good idea to trade it in for a scooter?

I don't want to sound mean but a dealer telling me that their product can't take my riding style seems like BS to me!

Don't take it personal, I've bought a cheap Malaysian JRD which gave me lots of trouble and I was glad to be rid of it after one year/10,000 km.

At the moment I'm helping my friend to get rid of his dead Platinum 175. That reinforced my position of never again buying anything non-Japanese.
You may pay more but you get way better quality.

Chinese products look quite good on the showroom floor but don't compare with known brand products - yet.

Thanks for posting your experience with this Tiger/Sachs model - I hope you fare better with the scooter!

Interestingly both the X-Road and the Platinum are Enduros with 175/230cc for 50 to 60,000 THB - unfortunately no comparable Japanese products available. Kawasaki's Boss chopper has a spunky little engine; I'd buy a KLX 175 for 85,000 THB. But that would take sales away from their overpriced KLX125.

A Honda CRF250L for 100,000 THB would be a winner!

umm maybe i didn't really post all of things here because i mainly posting on tiger/sachs forum ...but my use of bikes has changed and thus the change from x-road to gmax was more than welcome....actually i just sold yesterday my virago 750 for the same reason.....and the Manufacturer did not mention about my riding style , or did i write that? But it was merely mentioned that they can not guarantee recurance of the same problem( having seperated the shocks and looked inside they must have found "misery inside" ) as they only assemble the parts sent from sachs manufacturer in china.....so generally said its not very convincing for the Brandname Sachs.


i think your position really sucks when you think of buying only japanese.....i would and still will buy non japanese brands ( and japanese as well), after all ducati,ktm,bmw,aprilia,harley, triumph are not japanese and these manufacturers have the one or other interesting bike , no?


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umm maybe i didn't really post all of things here because i mainly posting on tiger/sachs forum ...but my use of bikes has changed and thus the change from x-road to gmax was more than welcome....actually i just sold yesterday my virago 750 for the same reason.....and the Manufacturer did not mention about my riding style , or did i write that? But it was merely mentioned that they can not guarantee recurance of the same problem( having seperated the shocks and looked inside they must have found "misery inside" ) as they only assemble the parts sent from sachs manufacturer in china.....so generally said its not very convincing for the Brandname Sachs.


i think your position really sucks when you think of buying only japanese.....i would and still will buy non japanese brands ( and japanese as well), after all ducati,ktm,bmw,aprilia,harley, triumph are not japanese and these manufacturers have the one or other interesting bike , no?


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I understood that the suspension sort of gave up on you and the dealer couldn't guarantee that the replacement parts would hold up any better.
"...generally said i would have expected it to "survive" my riding..." - I would expect the same, any bike which suspension and chain/sprocket is shot after half a year is not acceptable. The KLX250 is more expensive but it's almost impossible to ride it to pieces!
"...its not very convincing for the Brandname Sachs..." - I thought Sachs pulled out and it's a Tiger?
When I mentioned non-Japanese brands I was talking about Platinum, JRD, Lifan and so on. There may be some Korean products that are better than Chinese but for me a bike has to work and be fun, and I pay a bit more for that. I don't want to be at the dealer once a month and waste my time with repairs or upgrades.
Of course European bikes are even more expensive than the Japanese and hold up the same or better.
But that's up to each buyer, if you don't mind things breaking or falling off or not working and waiting for parts and haggling over warranty issues, fine. At least you saved some money when you bought it.
My motto is: "buy the best and only cry once" - and the Japanese have the best price/quality ratio.
If I ever win the lottery I may buy a KTM or a Triumph...
Good luck with your new scooter, I hope it holds up alright, keep us posted!
I've never owned one but just got me a used Yamaha Nouvo 135. Takes a bit getting used to, no footpegs, two hand brakes and the automatic, but I'm happy and won't buy a Wave again!

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I understood that the suspension sort of gave up on you and the dealer couldn't guarantee that the replacement parts would hold up any better.
"...generally said i would have expected it to "survive" my riding..." - I would expect the same, any bike which suspension and chain/sprocket is shot after half a year is not acceptable. The KLX250 is more expensive but it's almost impossible to ride it to pieces!
"...its not very convincing for the Brandname Sachs..." - I thought Sachs pulled out and it's a Tiger?
When I mentioned non-Japanese brands I was talking about Platinum, JRD, Lifan and so on. There may be some Korean products that are better than Chinese but for me a bike has to work and be fun, and I pay a bit more for that. I don't want to be at the dealer once a month and waste my time with repairs or upgrades.
Of course European bikes are even more expensive than the Japanese and hold up the same or better.
But that's up to each buyer, if you don't mind things breaking or falling off or not working and waiting for parts and haggling over warranty issues, fine. At least you saved some money when you bought it.
My motto is: "buy the best and only cry once" - and the Japanese have the best price/quality ratio.
If I ever win the lottery I may buy a KTM or a Triumph...
Good luck with your new scooter, I hope it holds up alright, keep us posted!
I've never owned one but just got me a used Yamaha Nouvo 135. Takes a bit getting used to, no footpegs, two hand brakes and the automatic, but I'm happy and won't buy a Wave again!

sorry to say ,but you did misunderstand this , the x-road 250 sold here is a sachs with a tiger badge...everything is same and come from the same manufacturer of the sachs x-road which is sold also in OZ or Columbia or costa rica ....

i would have expected/hoped the xroad to survive my riding....but you do not know where i have been...or do you? read about goat mountain trip? maybe tonybkk or thaicbr will tell you what kind of ride this was .... and flood ridings i done plenty of that too....sure i gave the bike a hard time but still i would expected it to survive...in any case i am happy with my Taiwanese Gmax ( its sold as Tiger Gmax here but it is a PGO Gmax) ..... hope you understand that this bike is , same as the xroad, not manufactured from tiger , only assembled here .

I have never been crying over bikes....enjoyed all of them(including my first bike a ktm pony ) ...but i never owned a JRD or Platinum , maybe thats why
BTW i never had to wait more than 5 days for a sparepart from tiger.... nor ever had to haggle warranty issues, english email response inless than 24 hours ....you probaby had crappy experience with platinum or jrd ...but this is a Tiger/Sachs section not a jrd or platinum. Tiger is a Thai Manufacturer, the xroad a chinese ckd kit and the gmax a taiwanese ckd kit ...other tiger bikes are "made in thailand"

hope this info helps,

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I never owned a Sachs bike but I had a Tiger 250RS wich was, from stock, a lot better than a kawaski for half the price (no restrictions on the Tiger). I had my stories with the bike but I still miss it.

I dont know about JRD either but from my experience Tiger service is just great when its about information, spare or warranty issues.

I now own a G-Max same as Mbox and I'm happy with it, the only thing missing from Tiger in my opinion is a better QC.

Since the 250RS is not available and the CRF250L is coming I may end up with a honda if I dont have to change stuff and void the warranty to make it run as it should.

The restrictions on the D-Tracker and the KLX are just a joke, how come my 18hp 250RS could perform better than a 23hp 250 D-Tracker for approximatly the same weight ?

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I never owned a Sachs bike but I had a Tiger 250RS wich was, from stock, a lot better than a kawaski for half the price (no restrictions on the Tiger). I had my stories with the bike but I still miss it.

I dont know about JRD either but from my experience Tiger service is just great when its about information, spare or warranty issues.

I now own a G-Max same as Mbox and I'm happy with it, the only thing missing from Tiger in my opinion is a better QC.

Since the 250RS is not available and the CRF250L is coming I may end up with a honda if I dont have to change stuff and void the warranty to make it run as it should.

The restrictions on the D-Tracker and the KLX are just a joke, how come my 18hp 250RS could perform better than a 23hp 250 D-Tracker for approximatly the same weight ?

Hi LOTD, sometimes people are kinda confused and put JRD or Platinum into the same drawer as Tiger, although there is quite a bit of difference- and since this is the Tiger/Sachs Section from gt-rider i am not sure why we even talk about JRD or Platinum here (those who wish to discuss their enjoyment, or lack thereof , could ask David to open a section for these brands) ...i think i have explained a lot about the X-road on Tiger/Sachs Forum (much of it was also posted on gt-rider)

I too liked my Boxer and miss it ...but the time i sold it was the time i wanted to change for the larger virago 750 ,now i think i should have kept my 250RS ..... Anyways i too am having my eyes on the CRF250L ...
Yeah, the QC should be better on Tiger bikes , but the x-road or the Gmax are actually CKD kits and in terms of assembly the xroad was alright and so far not any problem with my gmax either.

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Hi, I am from Croatia and I need piston and links (i think that is right name) for X-Road 125, but its not avalaible in Croatia, bad inport...so if anybody can buy it at his country and send my to Cro, i can pay bay paypal or something like that... tnx and sorry on bad english

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The X-Road 125 was never imported in Thailand, you'd better contact Sachs Germany for more info.

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The X-Road 125 was never imported in Thailand, you'd better contact Sachs Germany for more info.

Seconded. .. The xroad 125 was never sold here...and depending when you bought yours you may either have to check with Sachs in Germany or in China/HK. If your xroad 125 has 6 gears than you got the one made in Europe with the Moto Morini Engine( i think they were made in europe until 2003? Not sure though) ....if you have 5 gears you will have to look in china/H.K.

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