Yss shocks

Discussion in 'Technical' started by David Race, May 4, 2011.

  1. David Race

    David Race Ol'Timer

    Can any body tell me if these shocks are good or not?
    I have a 650 Ninja and want to up date the terrible standard shock and springs and was going to buy Hyperpro but if these YSS are good I will buy them and save myself a lot of Baht.
    Can any one recommend them thanks.
     
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  3. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

    David
    YSS was good. I have them on my AT, as does Robert H, but unfortunately a couple of years ago they had a company reorganization & change of supplier = the product doesn't quite come up to spec nowadays. Lack of / no quality control with parts failures. No very good at all. I understood that YSS used to use the same parts supplier as Ohlins, so what you were getting was tops!

    I spent considerable time in Oz with Walter Presig, an ex YSS partner in Thailand & a YSS agent in Oz.
    Walter has one of the largest collections of shock absorbers & springs in Oz & is a suspension genius.

    http://www.suspensionshop.org/index.php

    If Walter was to build your shock for you it would be absolutely perfect, but the cost to / from Oz would make it bloody expensive.

    So there's probably better value for money options around.

    I've got photos of Walter's operation in Oz & will upload them, once I clear the back log.
     
  4. Franconian

    Franconian Active Member

    I have contacted YSS several times by email and asked for the price and shipping duration for a shock absorber. They have never replied.

    How much is a YSS shock roughly for an Africa Twin?

    I have a Yamaha Tenere, but I would imagine the price is similar.

    Cheers,
    Frank
     
  5. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

    You won't get much of an answer from the factory.
    The people to contact are Red Baron, a YSS dealer in Bangkok, or Walter in Australia.
    http://www.suspensionshop.org/index.php
    Good luck.
    The other best choices would be either Ohlins or Hyperpro.
     
  6. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

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    note the spring stock in the background.

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    that's a hell of a donk for a two-stroke!

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    Walter can build / set up any shock for you

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    send him your details & he will set it up for you.
    My cousin in Perth had Walter in South Oz set up a YSS shock for his Harley by emailing / phoning his specs & it worked perfect on the bike.

    http://www.suspensionshop.org/index.php

    How to set up your bike's suspension
    http://www.suspensionshop.org/tech_suspension_setup.php

    Good luck to all you guys in need of new suspension.
     
  7. ronwebb

    ronwebb Ol'Timer

    This is extremely helpful, particularly the link to the technical help stuff. Thanks David.
     
  8. David Race

    David Race Ol'Timer

    Hi David

    Thank you that is great information.
    I went and bought a Hyperpro shock and am well pleased.
    Ron has been helping me set it up which has made a vast improvement.
    Your link on suspension set up so very useful.
    Great work David.
     
  9. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

    BUmp for Hoghead.

    Walter is alive & well - still building the best shock absorbers

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    a visit to catch up with Walter in April 2014.

    He also has a pretty trick beer tap.

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    now what motor is that guys?
     
  10. Ian Bungy

    Ian Bungy Ol'Timer

    Either a Yamaha XS650 or Kawasaki WR650?
     
  11. Captain Wally

    Captain Wally Ol'Timer

    I'm saying definitely Yamaha XS650.
     
  12. penetrator

    penetrator Ol'Timer

    Any opinion on YSS shocks from more recent experience or information ?

    Considering taking 1 back to UK for my Bros if can get at a decent price.
     
  13. Hoghead

    Hoghead Ol'Timer

    their service is terrrible and there is no technical department in BKK at all. A;; there is is some clueless girl with a much touted degree in "engineering marketing" that knows SFA about bikes and shocks in general

    I tried to order shocks for my Bonnie and no answer to emails
    Had Mrs Hoghead send email in Thai - no answer
    Finally they respond to my complaints on Facebook about their lack of service
    I press to use normal business communications rather than FB and they reluctantly give me an email
    After much wasted time and pointless emails one of which asked for a pic of my bike they decide that they do not have a shock
    I refer them to their US Distributor website giving the part number
    They deny making the shock
    I speak with the US Importer who gives me the PN they use and order from YSS Thailand - he says their technical ability is sadly lacking and they are just a bunch of marketers who have grand visions of their ability. Pretty damming stuff
    I give YSS Thailand the PN
    They deny making the shock
    I press the issue and finally get it ordered
    They send me the wrong part
    I naturally complain and ask for what I ordered and payed for
    YSS tells me that the part they supplied is really what I want as their Euro office says so
    I tell them to give me what I ordered and payed for
    They tell me that I really want what they provided
    This goes back and forth a few times
    They tell me to try it and I will like it
    I tell them OK but if I do not like it they need to give me what I want
    They tell me that I am not even trying
    I tell than once again to give me what I ordered, paid for, and they agreed to supply
    They agree to take it back
    I send it back
    They tell me that they do not make what I ordered, and paid for
    I remind them of my conversation with their US Importer
    I finally get what I want

    YSS Thailand is bloody useless and it is just not worth it
     
  14. penetrator

    penetrator Ol'Timer

    Doesn't sound too good. What is your opinion of the shocks you finally got ?
     
  15. Hoghead

    Hoghead Ol'Timer

    No miles on the Bonnie shock yet and too busy riding the Trident
    YSS Thailand evaluation has to wait until next year as I am leaving in 10 days

    The Trident has the same YSS shock model, purchased on 09 from the US Importer. They seem pretty good but OTOH this is a vintage bike and I do not ride it as hard as one would do a modern bike so I really cannot comment

    No matter how good YSS Thailand is bloody useless so spend more and save yourself the aggrivation
     
  16. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

  17. Hoghead

    Hoghead Ol'Timer

    I spoke to Walter but the cost became prohibitive given his initially higher cost, VAT, shipping, and duties.
    It also became a logistical nightmare as I was in Thailand at the time, and the bike is in Canada.
     
  18. saxonator

    saxonator Ol'Timer

    I cannot understand why everyone is going off on YSS, I called them over the website and talked to a woman on the phone who got me in touch with the sales guy, the sales guy was good totalk to and could give me information about a custom made shock for my XR400R for my weight, we didn't talk about spring rate, they didn't understand that, but a custome build shock would cost about 10 k Baht here in Thailand and if the bike is in BKK they can fit it right away, only problem with them no-one speaks enlgish there, so you better get someone who speaks Thai I understands a little bit suspension
     
  19. DavidFL

    DavidFL Administrator Staff Member

    Many thanks for the update Rudi.
    It's good to know you're satisfied & think everything is working ok.

    BTW yeah a big part of the "problem with YSS is communication" for non-Thai speaking farang, who also like to ask a lot of questions & then complain when they don't understand.

    Let us know how you go with performance & reliability on the YSS, because maybe they've come good again. I was certainly happy with the YSS I had on my Africa TWin for a long time.
     
  20. Hoghead

    Hoghead Ol'Timer

    No they do not understand spring rates or at least the "marketing engineer" does not understand and seems unwilling to let me talk to a real engineer if in fact one even exists.

    In any case I gave them the spring and shock PN that I wanted and they could not even get this right

    Bloody useless

    But then again I "think too much"
     

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