CBR250R goes dual-sport

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2012 Honda CRF250L: CBR250R goes dual-sport

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At the Tokyo Motor Show, Honda will be rolling out this great-looking little dual-sport based on the CBR250R’s 18bhp single-cylinder. Why is this news so exciting? Well, the current CRF230L is too slow, too small and too expensive to compete with bikes like the Yamaha WR250R. But, if this 2012 Honda CRF250L is made in Thailand like the CBR, expect a price in the neighborhood of $4k.
 
Nov 10, 2011
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Is that $4000 USD, 4000 Euros, 4000?
Seeing the suspension and engine on that bike, I think it would be a good replacement for my beat up NX. Since I'm originally from the US, I don't think I would be able to bring it back with me, though.
 

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Nov 19, 2011
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Hmmm, seems like you guys have the hp numbers mixed up.
GPS writes his air-cooled 223cc 2-valver makes 25 hp; I'd say that's wishful thinking, elsewhere this engine is listed with around 18hp. To get another 7 you'd have to do quite a bit of work to it. Kawasaki's watercooled 4-valve 250cc doesn't make 25hp. http://www.mbike.com/honda/crf230f/2010

Bartomeer writes that the new CBR250 has 18hp, but 24hp seem more realistic. http://www.cycleworld.com/2011/03/04/kawasaki-ninja-250r-vs-honda-cbr250r-comparison-test/

But I agree that 160kg is a lot for a 250 single!
 
Mar 8, 2010
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The street legal 230 has 19 HP, only release the exhaust brings it to 24-25. Fixed the carp and there are real 26. No fake. I ride it 6 years and I´m really satiesfied. But next year I guess, I´ll change the colour to orange. KTM Freeride 350, same same, but different and up2date.
The KLX can be much stronger, the 22 HP comes from a totaly strangled engine. The WR shows how it works. Healty 32 HP is a streetlegal reliable bike.
 

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How do you know that a different exhaust adds 5 hp? Did you put it on a dyno or is it just a guess?

The WR is the better bike but also way more expensive, and not available in Thailand.