The most important thing before you even consider to buy or rent a motorbike, is that you have enough experience to drive one. Vietnam is no place for beginners, so please take your time to learn until you have plenty of experience and confidence to have a safe, enjoyable ride! Lately i have come across a lot of inaccurate and false information, scattered around multiple website forums. I have no doubt that half of the posts and even replies are from the bikes shops trying to sell second hand wins. I would like to provide some real facts about the whole buying and selling at one end or the other of Vietnam. Most of the bikes being sold by backpackers and buy and sell bike shops on most occasions have been bought from another backpacker who also is likely to have purchased the bike from a backpacker, which means that the bike has gone up and down Vietnam like a yo yo. During the trip the bikes would have had multiple work and rebuilds done to them. Most of the time they will claim they bought it from someone else. You only need to check the clock to see the mileage on them to know they are no longer safe and reliable. Even still most of the time the mileage gage has stopped working and it's not difficult to adjust it to a lower figure. On some of these bikes the true mileage is normally 60,000 70,000 or maybe more. Ok so some facts about rebuilds, which all the shops claim have been done to most of their bikes. The figures below are on average and relating to the Chinese Honda Win's. Most shops will rebuild an engine using second hand parts. The engine should have a rebuild with brand new parts, once only after 20,000km, so after 40,000km the bike is on its way out and so shouldn't be used for any long distance trips at all! Also parts of the bike like the suspension should be changed when needed and properly fixed with new or at least with good second hand parts. Ignoring the basic maintenance of a bike or doing up a bike just to make it look good, this is when the bike can become unsafe and dangerous. The price of the bike is often bumped up to tourists by a substantial amount in some cases over double the price of what a local would pay! The average price for a second hand Win being sold to a tourist is $350 to $400 and notice how the price is always similar and not priced on the condition, mileage and model, but apparently they have all had rebuilds, which I hope, but doubt they have used brand new parts and only rebuilt it once. The true value should be judged upon each individual bike and can start from $50 to $550 for a brand new one! You can always get a deal from a backpacker trying to sell their bike. However, if you have no maniacal knowledge, you are buying blind. In my experience I have seen bikes being bought for about $80 from a backpacker and then sprayed with paint to look new and only a few minor adjustments have been applied and then resold as a rebuild for $350 sometimes even $400. When you purchase a Chinese Honda Win from a buy and sell shop you might be offered a guaranteed buy back at the other end through a connected company. A lot of times the customer would be told that they would buy it back for about $250. However, if you manage to find the other shop, I can assure you they will not be buying it back for $250 but most probably $50 to a maximum of $150. They will point out and find numerous problems with the bike and explain because it wasn’t look after they cannot pay the full amount that was promised. You might get lucky and be able to sell it to another backpacker. There are a lot of comments on forums of people claiming that they brought and then sold the bike and they lost hardly any money and this does happen. However, in my experience it’s not often and what a lot of people fail to mention is the true amount they had to spend to keep it running during their trip. This can add up to much more than the true value of the bike. History of the Honda win. Honda stopped making real wins in 2000. Soon after the Chinese copied it. It’s really hard to come across a real Honda win these days and often most people believe that their bike is a real Honda when in fact it is a bad copy. The Vietnamese copied it 7 years ago and make a slightly more reliable version which is called a sufat. So what’s the solution to all this? Take your time when buying a bike; don’t be pushed into buying something that you are not 100% sure about. Check the mileage, Look at the bike to see if it has been spray painted to cover anything up and Don’t buy into any promised buy backs. Renting from a trusted rental shop is always a better option. However, if you want to buy a Win you can buy a relatively new Win in very good condition with low mileage for about $300.