2013 Honda CBR500/CB500R/CB500X

KZ25

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nikster;285009 wrote: Are these really the same weight as the kawa 650s? Cbx has 193 kg curb weight but not sure thats dry or wet.
No, they are not, as a couple of minutes googling will tell you.

The CB500X curb weight (includes all standard equipment, required fluids and full tank of fuel - ready to ride) is 195 kg (430 punds) while the Ninja 650 is 208 kg (260 pounds) wet.

The naked CB500F is 190 kg (420 pounds) wet.
 

TonyBKK

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^ +1, good to see them keeping these bikes away from the franchise dealers and selling them only through the official Honda Big Wings.
 

TonyBKK

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KZ25;285015 wrote: No, they are not, as a couple of minutes googling will tell you.

The CB500X curb weight (includes all standard equipment, required fluids and full tank of fuel - ready to ride) is 195 kg (430 punds) while the Ninja 650 is 208 kg (260 pounds) wet.

The naked CB500F is 190 kg (420 pounds) wet.
And the naked ER6n is 204Kg (450lbs)

Still the 650's put out ~72Hp to the 500's ~47Hp, so power to weight is definitely in Kawasaki's favor.
 

michaels

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For people interested in a sports bike, the CBR 500 looks pretty damn depressing. Heavier and less power than my 20 year old VFR 400cc, and judging from the pictures, doesn't look much like a sports bike either. Why they did not call it CBR 500 RR? Presumably to avoid making it look competly ridicolous compared to their proper racing-replica bikes.

Still waiting for somebody to start selling locally produced sports bikes here, so I can retire my VFR 400. :-/
 

yankee99

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michaels;285042 wrote: For people interested in a sports bike, the CBR 500 looks pretty damn depressing. Heavier and less power than my 20 year old VFR 400cc, and judging from the pictures, doesn't look much like a sports bike either. Why they did not call it CBR 500 RR? Presumably to avoid making it look competly ridicolous compared to their proper racing-replica bikes.

Still waiting for somebody to start selling locally produced sports bikes here, so I can retire my VFR 400. :-/
plenty of bikes here . ducati z1000 cbr1000rr you just need to pay the price. Thailand is a pimple on hondas ass and they are marketing to the world masses.
Obviously they think a low powered 500 is going to sell better at a low price then a new inline 4
 

TonyBKK

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michaels;285042 wrote: For people interested in a sports bike, the CBR 500 looks pretty damn depressing. Heavier and less power than my 20 year old VFR 400cc, and judging from the pictures, doesn't look much like a sports bike either. Why they did not call it CBR 500 RR? Presumably to avoid making it look competly ridicolous compared to their proper racing-replica bikes.

Still waiting for somebody to start selling locally produced sports bikes here, so I can retire my VFR 400. :-/
If you can wait a little longer the Thai-manufactured Z800 should become available for purchase in Thailand, hopefully in 2013.

A proper inline 4 that cranks out 113 Hp and weighs 229Kg. Sounds like a winning recipe to me! :happy1:
 

NickyBKK

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The CB500X comes standard with Pirelli Scorpions. :thumbup:

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NickyBKK

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In fact the CBR500R is really good value for money. There is nothing that comes even close to it here in Thailand.

You get 500cc with 47HP for 205,000 THB

I believe that the baby Ninja that is available here in Thailand has 250 CC with 27HP (or so?) for 147,000 THB (or so?)
 

TonyBKK

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brake034;285060 wrote: The picture Linds made of the dressed up X has a one piece buddy, the others show a two piece contruction.
All the early pics also show the one piece buddy, maybe pre production / prototype bikes.

Scorpions? Great!

Any GT Rider order one already?
I am waiting for the release of the X, Big Wing said they do not yet accept orders for them.
Sorry, what is a "one piece buddy"?? :confused:
 

KZ25

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NickyBKK;285058 wrote: The CB500X comes standard with Pirelli Scorpions. :thumbup:

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That's un-be-effin-lievable! Isn't that a 5,000 baht value already?
 

KZ25

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Ian Bungy;285067 wrote: My Friend has ordered a "X" but He told Me today they said about February before delivery. That is when the Honda Big Wing Showroom is supposed to open here in Chiang Mai.
Hmmm, "about February" sounds like middle of April to me...
 

KZ25

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NickyBKK;285059 wrote: I believe that the baby Ninja that is available here in Thailand has 250 CC with 27HP (or so?) for 147,000 THB (or so?)
The Nija 250 is a bit more by now, 153,000 or so.

But - the more you pay, the more you get, and the Er6n with 650cc and around 70 hp is only 235,000 baht (the last time I checked).
For riders who want power that's the better deal.
For beginners or older farts like me who are happy with a 160 km/h top speed and prefer a good gas mileage over acceleration the Honda is right.
 

nikster

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TonyBKK;285017 wrote: And the naked ER6n is 204Kg (450lbs)

Still the 650's put out ~72Hp to the 500's ~47Hp, so power to weight is definitely in Kawasaki's favor.
But what about bang for the buck?

Kawasaki - ER-6n at 250,000: 3,470 THB / HP
Honda - CBR500F at 200,000: 4,255 THB / HP

HP is not the end-all, be-all but I wanted to know ;)
 

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power is not everything my Ducati has 118bhp but 95% of the time only 50% gets used and thats mostly torque ,
the new Hondas interest me a lot as a second bike .
 

NickyBKK

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Ian Bungy;285067 wrote: My Friend has ordered a "X" but He told Me today they said about February before delivery. That is when the Honda Big Wing Showroom is supposed to open here in Chiang Mai.
At the Motor Expo here in BKK they told me they would start delivering bikes within this month. I will go to BIg Wing BKK this weekend and maybe buy/order one.

Most probably I will go for the X, I have to say that the looks of the other 2 models is better but here in LOS the X will be a great bike. Also like the standard Pirelli tyres.
 

NickyBKK

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KZ25;285075 wrote: The Nija 250 is a bit more by now, 153,000 or so.

But - the more you pay, the more you get, and the Er6n with 650cc and around 70 hp is only 235,000 baht (the last time I checked).
For riders who want power that's the better deal.
For beginners or older farts like me who are happy with a 160 km/h top speed and prefer a good gas mileage over acceleration the Honda is right.
ER6n is THB 250,000
ER6f is THB 265,000
 

NickyBKK

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monsterman;285091 wrote: power is not everything my Ducati has 118bhp but 95% of the time only 50% gets used and thats mostly torque ,
the new Hondas interest me a lot as a second bike .
Correct my Ducati has 100bhp and 75.9 lb-ft of torque. Together with a smaller front sprocket the bike is quite fast.
 

yankee99

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nikster;285089 wrote: But what about bang for the buck?

Kawasaki - ER-6n at 250,000: 3,470 THB / HP
Honda - CBR500F at 200,000: 4,255 THB / HP

HP is not the end-all, be-all but I wanted to know ;)

z1000 4,282 thb/hp