ACFTA Free Trade Areement Motorcylce parts

Marco

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Ray

i read it 9 pages 2 times and i did not find any sections about Bike parts, only 9 pages of Wood and wood like products and they taxesation....

I'm I missing something here?
 

Auke

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Marco,

No surprise there as the link Ray provided leads to the website of the Malaysian Timber Industry Board.
 

Marco

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Auke wrote: Marco,

No surprise there as the link Ray provided leads to the website of the Malaysian Timber Industry Board.
Ake

So im Not "Completely" lost yet in my head,,, i was wondering thou...
 

monsterman

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It means that they cannot put huge import duty on bikes less than 800cc as they do now which sounds good for japanese made bikes ...but alrady the Thai government has found a loophole to keep prices high,

with wine they reduced the massive 200% import duty as AFTA required but raised alchohol sales tax to keep prices high on medical grounds (legal but dirty) on bikes and cars they will raise new vehicle registration duty to cover loss of import tax on enviromental grounds.
 

ray23

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Guys I said it was long document you have to get past the timber Ect.

The part I was looking at was the parts for 800CC bikes and below. It says effective this year no import duties.

It won't let me cut and paste, or I would have done that.

Scroll through it till you find motorcycles it's there.

Or I took to many pain pills :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Marco

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ray23 wrote: Guys I said it was long document you have to get past the timber Ect.

The part I was looking at was the parts for 800CC bikes and below. It says effective this year no import duties.

It won't let me cut and paste, or I would have done that.

Scroll through it till you find motorcycles it's there.

Or I took to many pain pills :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ray in your Link has ONLY 9pages and those all are for timber,, NOTHING after 9pages,, but any how,, got the idea already about taxes and anyhow under 800cc, dont make any difference for me... :lol:
 

ray23

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Weird it was lot longer when I viewed or was it :shock:

Better living through modern Chemistry.:lol:

Might be worth knowing remember we are talking about parts a U-joint for a 400 and and a 1100 will look pretty much the same. A wheel ect.

The only thing I can think of is type in the subject for a google search and maybe then you will get the entire agreement.

I doubt it will be honored, or they will find other ways to get the money as pointed out.

It even covers cars with restrictions on engine size ambulances fire trucks.

Hmmmm!!!!!!!!! Another worthless piece of information I need to riding :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

ray23

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Not as bad a thought this peaked my curiousty this morning and then I looked up the agreement as to motorcycles, low and behold they were there.

World's largest trading zone creates a new era for industries, consumers
By NOPHAKHUN LIMSAMARNPHUN
THE NATION
Published on January 5, 2010

Opportunities and threats abound for Thai consumers and industries alike under the Asean-China Free Trade Area (AC-FTA) agreement, which created the world's largest trading zone in terms of population when it came into effect last Friday.
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Among various interest groups, Thai consumers are expected to be the main beneficiaries of the AC-FTA, whose combined population is 1.9 billion. But Thai farmers and some domestic industries will face new challenges, due to the abolition of import tariffs protecting their goods.

Over the past 17 years, Thailand and other member countries of Asean - with a combined population of about 550 million - started to gradually reduce their import duties as part of the Asean Free Trade Area, better known as Afta.

Then in 2004, China, the world's most populous nation, with 1.3 billion consumers, entered into an agreement with Asean to create the AC-FTA, with the target of reducing import duties on most goods to zero by January 1, 2010.

In the first stage, only the six original members of Asean - Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Indonesia, Singapore and Brunei - will enforce the zero-import-tariff mechanism. The remaining Asean members - Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos and Burma - will follow suit at a later stage.

For Thailand and the other original Asean members, a new era has begun. Consumers in all of them will benefit from lower prices of goods.

In principle, prices will be cheaper, due to the division of labour and specialisation among producers within the new trading zone, while there will be greater product diversity.

Kiat Sitthi-amorn, president of the Thailand Trade Representative Office, said: "Thai consumers will definitely gain from the AC-FTA, due to zero import tariffs. However, our domestic industries will face fiercer competition from imported products.

"Since 1993, industries like electronics and electrical appliances, or garments and textiles, or automobiles, have taken lots of adaptive measures [to survive this new era].

"The auto sector appears to have done the best [in terms of competitiveness], but some other import-competing industries will still be hit."

In the end, the survivors will be those with the greatest efficiency in terms of raw materials, manpower, research and development and logistics. For Thai farmers, it is time to speed up improvements in productivity and crop varieties. A case in point is garlic. A few years ago, cheaper Chinese garlic flooded the Thai market, resulting in a reduction in the acreage planted to Thai garlic.

Indigenous garlic fetches a record price, because there is less of it reaching the market, while the Chinese product has proved to be unpopular, because of its texture and taste.

While Thailand's agricultural sector remains competitive, climate and domestic subsidies in each of the Asean markets and the huge Chinese market will be the other major factors affecting farm output and prices.

Despite implementation of the AC-FTA, Thai farmers should generally fare even better this year than in 2009, due to lower farm outputs in neighbouring countries, especially rice. The Philippines and India are already planning to buy more Thai rice.
 

pee

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Are you sure Japanese bikes would fall under this ASEAN-China Free Trade Area (AC-FTA) agreement anyway?
Japan is not part of ASEAN.
 

ray23

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Not really sure. But, they are listed on the documents I researched I can't remember if they were part of this one or not.

The Kawi 650 is cheap in comparison to the 900. Was that because it's produced here or this? Don't know

The actual document is over 200 pages long
 

ray23

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I guess it really doesn't effect me either unless I can source parts for the 800 somewhere in the member nations. I been poking around looking for sources nothing so far.

13 year old bike something will break eventually. Waiting the mechaniic mean months if he ever finds them. He didn't find the sprockets for the rebuild. Tips from here found them.

If you can get the parts fast you can get the repairs fast.
 

monsterman

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every wine drinker in Thailand was hoping AFTA would make wine as affordable as it is in Europe,USA,etc but then Thais got round that with tax chicanery, so a $10 bottle of wine still costs $25 here and I reckon they will do the same scam with vehicles.Look at the Triumph price situation and they are made here.....