Guys if ever plan on heading up north and are not familiar with it. It might be handy to remember where this is. Almost a month of research and interviews went into to this. Which included driving David crazy along with Capt Slash and Tung Dee :lol:
A Big Thanks to all that helped
Loie to 2115 No 7.37 Klms L/T
Tha Li 43.24 Klms L/T Jog R/t
2195 W. L/T
2195 becomes 1267
( alternate Coming from Na haeo North on 1268 you said you will take 1243.
Check with the guys re the state of the road 1243. You can just as
easily take 1083 to 1026 to 101 to Nan. 1083 is a great road.
OR
1083 W R/T
if you would like some more curvaceous roads
1026 No. R/T Nan 1169-1081-1256-1080-1148 stay in Chiang Kham
to Non
1091 W L/T Chiang Kham 1021-1093-1155-1020 Chiang khong
1268 No R/T
Ban Khok No 61 Klms
1083 50 Klms Na Noi L/T
1083 W to 1026 No. 50 Klms Non R/T
1091 W Ban Luang 50 Klms L/T
1120 17 klms R/T
Chaing Muan 13 Klms
1251 N/W Bok Kham Tai 65 Klms L/T
1021 L/T
1021 to 1 W. 12 Klms
1 to Phayo No. 6 klms R/T
IN PHAYAO
1. Phu Thong Place for accommodation. 500 baht a night with brekky / 400 without. Excellent value for money.
2. Krua Thep Pub & Restaurant for great 70s-80s pop-rock music. Good food, staff & service.
3. Lakeview Pub. Good atmosphere & nice jazzy Thai music. Brilliant young lead guitarist & singer Mr Bird with the band Talents. They've
Phayo Pois Village to Chaing Rai?
FROM SVEN on 5 Nov 2007
Chiang Rai: Garden House
A really nice guesthouse in Chiang Rai is Garden House (formerly Ya-house), 1,5km west of the main strip/market/bus station. 150 B for a "bungalow" (to storey private small houses with a balcony), a shady, palmy garden and the most dedicated owner I have met. (He offered all kinds of help when I was running around trying to buy a bike)
FROM DAVIDFL on 13 Dec 2007
Just spent a night in Chiang Rai & my fave hotel, the Nimseeseng was booked out, so my riding buddy Mark Rossi in town ahead of me got us into the Sport Inn oposite the Red Rose Hotel for 500 baht a night.
Now it seems to me as if this high season is going to be a good one with hundreds of Bkk Thais touring around in their cars, & rooms might not always be so easy to getfirst up, or without a booking. So I cruised around town a bit checking out the parking situation & noted that the Sabai Inn, just a few hundred metres from the Sport Inn looks similar, but with under cover parking. Might be worth checking out for next time.
GTRIDERS MAP
Golden Tri Loop
Chaing Rai 1 to Mae Sai
1 No 28 Klms to 1016 30 Klms R/T
1290 Mae Sai 50 Klms L/T
Chaeng Son Opium Museum
IN MAE SAI
1. Umporn Resort for accommodation
http://www.umpornresort.com/eng/location.asp
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Davidfl
Keep The Power On
Resevations 11-29 2 rooms 600 baht per night
053-731769
1149 L/T
Bear Left
Phra That Chang Mun
( Doi Tung Royal Palace) 20 Klms
2 Klms
1338 to 1234 20 Klms R/T
1089 to 107 R/T
107 to 1095 R/T
Mai Ai 38 Klms
Fang 15 Klms
Chai Pra Kan 23 Klms
Chaing Dao 45 Klm
CHIANG DAO
1. Kurt and Mons 053 388 011 great nites stay, and free internet 190 baht a nite (I think), they only have 2 rooms so best to book in advance, closed wednesday.
11-30
Saimoonburi Resort
52/1 T. Nongbua A. Chaiprakarn Chiangmai
Btwn Sop Khap & Kaeng Pa Tao
Ban Krating Resort
Thap Dua (Royal Ping Garden Resort)?
Mae Trang 27 Klms
1095 R/T 5 Klms Pai 69 L Klms
To Pia (total 235 Klms) From Bike party 285
PAI
1. Brookview Guesthouse Resort. Bungalow # 4.
Pai to Mae Hong Son 77 Klms
Mae Hong Son
FROM CAPT SLASH ON 11 Feb 2007
Mae Hong Son
Salween River Restaurant
Crossroads Restaurant
IN MAE HONG SON
1. The Piya Guesthouse.
2. The Crossroads Pub (say hello to Nok)
3. The Salween Restaurant for breakfast
4. The Chalet Pub in the Baiyoke Hotel.
5. Baan Thai for the best massages in North Thailand
108
• See View Guesthouse (053 681556), 70 Wiangmai Rd, a bit outside town, on the other side of the river (turn left after crossing the bridge, 10 mn walk from station). You will probably be met by the owner at the bus station who will propose to give you the ride / Huge and comfortable rooms w. shower 150 (Sgl or dbl occupancy), Bungalows 250 / Trekking / Bikes for rent / Go there for the best rooms in town at excellent value if two people, the big open space next to the river, the relaxing restaurant, the pick up service from and to the station / What you may not like : being outside of town, not being completely isolated from the traffic noise, being wake up at 4am by excited roosters, the not so fresh nor charming concrete rooms
• Riverside Guesthouse, from the bus station, turn left, then right, then right again on the street parallel to the Youm river, 5mn walk in total / Various size rooms go for 100 or 180 Sgl or Dbl occupancy / Great relaxing terrace / Trekking / Go there for the atmosphere and the good central location, to eat or relax at the terrace while looking at the river / What you may not like : the not so cheap basic rooms, the proximity of the road
• North West Guesthouse (053 681956), just before the above, on the other side of the road, same management / The cleanest & freshest looking rooms in town (90 or 160 Sgl or Dbl occupancy) but without the river view atmosphere...
• Mae Sariang Guesthouse, even closer to the bus station, same road as above / Very basic rooms 60 or 100 without or w. shower / No charm, noisy and a bit dirty but cheap and centrally located...
Phun Kuam
Ban Farrang Guest house 053-622-0856
Reserve 12-5
6oo baht
108 to 1263
1263 to 1284
1284 to 102
Chaing Mai
Dear Mr. Ray Fisher
Thank you for you e mail the hotel confirm your reservation Mr. Ray Fisher for 1 supdbl on 6-8 December 2008 join with Chiangmaibike week.
Best Reguard
Dusit Tathong
Front Office Manager
เมื่อ สิงหาคม 22, 2008 8:35 ก่อนเที่ยง, [email [email protected]][email protected][/email] เขียนว่า:
Your Name = Ray Fisher
Your Email Address = [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
DO NOT HIT THE REPLY BUTTON = TO reply to
FROM CAPT SLASH on 2 Feb 2007
Uttaradit
Numchai Hotel, 140 Baht, on Baromart road
New York is a nice restaurant in a soi opposite the hotel, owned by a German who does nice T bone steaks, I had a 500 gramme one today with a large plate of fries for 299 Baht
FROM Robin Holmes on 28 Feb 2007
http://www.cavelodge.com/
Nothing I can say to do this place justice. Friendly comfortable good food and home baked bread.
11 to Phittslanuk
Hi Ray23,
Ray here are the contact details. The hotel is opposite S-Mile furniture shop.
30/2 Moo 7 Tumbol Watchan,
Amphor Muang,
Phitsanulok 65000
Tel +6655216771-2
Room Rates
1 double bed = 450 Baht
Twin bed = 490 Baht
Like i said Ray the hotel is about 6 months old, very friendly and helpfull staff. I stayed there for 3 months so i got discount.
Hope this helps you's.
Lucky’s Hotel Wang Gao Hotel 055-245-5818
12 to Chumpae
12 to 2228 Nong Bua Lampho L/T
Udon
Misc: Info
Very nice, quiet, common area, Wifi.
563/3 Intarakeeree rd, Mae Sot, Tak 63110
08-1972-4467 & 08-1886-2950
For food: right next door is T-corner, which is not bad.
Mae Sot for a few months now at Phannu House. Fairly modern, friendly, good service. Coming into town from the Burma side it's just before the traffic police, where the road splits into two one-way streets on the right.
N16 42.839 E98 33.724
D with hot shower from 250B.
AC rooms available.
I prefer Casa Mia Restaurant, excellent Thai, Burmese and western food.
Opens 7h for breakfast, I'm there every day.
To find it, go West past a lot of bars about 500m or so, turn right into the only large road there is.
GPS N16 42.731 E98 33.465
Cheers,
5 Post subject: Recommended GT Rider Spots & Contacts in North Thailand.
________________________________________
CHIANG DAO
1. Kurt and Mons 053 388 011 great nites stay, and free internet 190 baht a nite (I think), they only have 2 rooms so best to book in advance, closed wednesday.
2. Resort run by Dutch guy. (His card all in Thai) Turn Left at side of MP gas station, on left going north through town. 053 388 255 Stayed here 1 nite, the Dutch guy, has about 5 brand new bungalows, 250 baht a nite. He even came out to main road to show us way in. Great Place.
John is a characterful Aussie who went out of his way to help us - he straight off gave us a lift down to Tony's in his recently built chair outfit to pick up some bikes and then lent us full face lids from his own collection! He can ride a bit too....!!
You have to take your chances on room availability as there is no booking system but there are quite a few rooms.
, down a little alley/lot
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Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 2567
Location: Thailand Posted: 28 Feb 2008 11:41 Post subject: Chiang Saen Restaurant
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IN CHIANG SAEN
1. KRUA CHIANG SAEN Restaurant. Another big thumbs up for this place.
Excellent value for money, superb food, big servings low prices.
River side on the 'Khong, opposite Gin's Ghouse at the Golden Triangle end of town!
The Happy Go Lucky Girlfriend singer, who knows her food, insisted we eat there again. And we did last night: huge fish, fresh fresh vegies & tasty spicy Thai salads. And very inexpensive. Check it out. Highly recommended!
_________________
Davidfl
Keep The Power On
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Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 2567
Location: Thailand Posted: 12 Mar 2008 20:22 Post subject:
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IN SOPPONG
1. The Soppong River Inn
http://www.soppong.com/
.
_________________
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Keep The Power On
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Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 2567
Location: Thailand Posted: 25 Apr 2008 15:10 Post subject:
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CHIANG MAI
Two guesthouses with undercover parking & very close to the Kafe
1. Boonthavon Court
http://www.boonthavon.com/
2. Ban Wiang
http://www.banwiang-guesthouse.com/home.htm
Opposite each other, & walking distance to the Kafe.
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globalgypsy
Biker
Joined: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 70
Location: Thailand Posted: 26 Apr 2008 11:33 Post subject: Updates for Chiang Dao
________________________________________
Hi guys,
Just wanted to let you know that the prices for our Place (on and Kurt's Restaurant and Guesthouse) and Cees Place have changed a little.
Our room is now 250 Baht per night and still includes water at night and free brewed coffee in the morning. It is now a little suite with two nice sofa chairs, a sitting area outside the room and private bathroom with hot shower
Cee's Bungalows now all have satelite TV and are 300 Baht per night
Numerous guesthouses and Western restaurants have sprung up during the past year in Chiang Dao, which makes it a nice place to use for a base, when exploring Northern Thailand by motorcycle.
The road to Chiang Dao, from Chiang Mai, is nearly completed and all paved now.
_________________
Come visit us sometime at Mon and Kurt's Restaurant in Chiang Dao
Run by Bikers - for Bikers!
http://www.chiangdao.org
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Revered Old Git
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 2567
Location: Thailand Posted: 30 Apr 2008 14:54 Post subject:
________________________________________
IN PHAYAO
1. Phu Thong Place for accommodation. 500 baht a night with brekky / 400 without. Excellent value for money.
2. Krua Thep Pub & Restaurant for great 70s-80s pop-rock music. Good food, staff & service.
3. Lakeview Pub. Good atmosphere & nice jazzy Thai music. Brilliant young lead guitarist & singer Mr Bird with the band Talents. They've
A Big Thanks to all that helped
Loie to 2115 No 7.37 Klms L/T
Tha Li 43.24 Klms L/T Jog R/t
2195 W. L/T
2195 becomes 1267
( alternate Coming from Na haeo North on 1268 you said you will take 1243.
Check with the guys re the state of the road 1243. You can just as
easily take 1083 to 1026 to 101 to Nan. 1083 is a great road.
OR
1083 W R/T
if you would like some more curvaceous roads
1026 No. R/T Nan 1169-1081-1256-1080-1148 stay in Chiang Kham
to Non
1091 W L/T Chiang Kham 1021-1093-1155-1020 Chiang khong
1268 No R/T
Ban Khok No 61 Klms
1083 50 Klms Na Noi L/T
1083 W to 1026 No. 50 Klms Non R/T
1091 W Ban Luang 50 Klms L/T
1120 17 klms R/T
Chaing Muan 13 Klms
1251 N/W Bok Kham Tai 65 Klms L/T
1021 L/T
1021 to 1 W. 12 Klms
1 to Phayo No. 6 klms R/T
IN PHAYAO
1. Phu Thong Place for accommodation. 500 baht a night with brekky / 400 without. Excellent value for money.
2. Krua Thep Pub & Restaurant for great 70s-80s pop-rock music. Good food, staff & service.
3. Lakeview Pub. Good atmosphere & nice jazzy Thai music. Brilliant young lead guitarist & singer Mr Bird with the band Talents. They've
Phayo Pois Village to Chaing Rai?
FROM SVEN on 5 Nov 2007
Chiang Rai: Garden House
A really nice guesthouse in Chiang Rai is Garden House (formerly Ya-house), 1,5km west of the main strip/market/bus station. 150 B for a "bungalow" (to storey private small houses with a balcony), a shady, palmy garden and the most dedicated owner I have met. (He offered all kinds of help when I was running around trying to buy a bike)
FROM DAVIDFL on 13 Dec 2007
Just spent a night in Chiang Rai & my fave hotel, the Nimseeseng was booked out, so my riding buddy Mark Rossi in town ahead of me got us into the Sport Inn oposite the Red Rose Hotel for 500 baht a night.
Now it seems to me as if this high season is going to be a good one with hundreds of Bkk Thais touring around in their cars, & rooms might not always be so easy to getfirst up, or without a booking. So I cruised around town a bit checking out the parking situation & noted that the Sabai Inn, just a few hundred metres from the Sport Inn looks similar, but with under cover parking. Might be worth checking out for next time.
GTRIDERS MAP
Golden Tri Loop
Chaing Rai 1 to Mae Sai
1 No 28 Klms to 1016 30 Klms R/T
1290 Mae Sai 50 Klms L/T
Chaeng Son Opium Museum
IN MAE SAI
1. Umporn Resort for accommodation
http://www.umpornresort.com/eng/location.asp
_________________
Davidfl
Keep The Power On
Resevations 11-29 2 rooms 600 baht per night
053-731769
1149 L/T
Bear Left
Phra That Chang Mun
( Doi Tung Royal Palace) 20 Klms
2 Klms
1338 to 1234 20 Klms R/T
1089 to 107 R/T
107 to 1095 R/T
Mai Ai 38 Klms
Fang 15 Klms
Chai Pra Kan 23 Klms
Chaing Dao 45 Klm
CHIANG DAO
1. Kurt and Mons 053 388 011 great nites stay, and free internet 190 baht a nite (I think), they only have 2 rooms so best to book in advance, closed wednesday.
11-30
Saimoonburi Resort
52/1 T. Nongbua A. Chaiprakarn Chiangmai
Btwn Sop Khap & Kaeng Pa Tao
Ban Krating Resort
Thap Dua (Royal Ping Garden Resort)?
Mae Trang 27 Klms
1095 R/T 5 Klms Pai 69 L Klms
To Pia (total 235 Klms) From Bike party 285
PAI
1. Brookview Guesthouse Resort. Bungalow # 4.
Pai to Mae Hong Son 77 Klms
Mae Hong Son
FROM CAPT SLASH ON 11 Feb 2007
Mae Hong Son
Salween River Restaurant
Crossroads Restaurant
IN MAE HONG SON
1. The Piya Guesthouse.
2. The Crossroads Pub (say hello to Nok)
3. The Salween Restaurant for breakfast
4. The Chalet Pub in the Baiyoke Hotel.
5. Baan Thai for the best massages in North Thailand
108
• See View Guesthouse (053 681556), 70 Wiangmai Rd, a bit outside town, on the other side of the river (turn left after crossing the bridge, 10 mn walk from station). You will probably be met by the owner at the bus station who will propose to give you the ride / Huge and comfortable rooms w. shower 150 (Sgl or dbl occupancy), Bungalows 250 / Trekking / Bikes for rent / Go there for the best rooms in town at excellent value if two people, the big open space next to the river, the relaxing restaurant, the pick up service from and to the station / What you may not like : being outside of town, not being completely isolated from the traffic noise, being wake up at 4am by excited roosters, the not so fresh nor charming concrete rooms
• Riverside Guesthouse, from the bus station, turn left, then right, then right again on the street parallel to the Youm river, 5mn walk in total / Various size rooms go for 100 or 180 Sgl or Dbl occupancy / Great relaxing terrace / Trekking / Go there for the atmosphere and the good central location, to eat or relax at the terrace while looking at the river / What you may not like : the not so cheap basic rooms, the proximity of the road
• North West Guesthouse (053 681956), just before the above, on the other side of the road, same management / The cleanest & freshest looking rooms in town (90 or 160 Sgl or Dbl occupancy) but without the river view atmosphere...
• Mae Sariang Guesthouse, even closer to the bus station, same road as above / Very basic rooms 60 or 100 without or w. shower / No charm, noisy and a bit dirty but cheap and centrally located...
Phun Kuam
Ban Farrang Guest house 053-622-0856
Reserve 12-5
6oo baht
108 to 1263
1263 to 1284
1284 to 102
Chaing Mai
Dear Mr. Ray Fisher
Thank you for you e mail the hotel confirm your reservation Mr. Ray Fisher for 1 supdbl on 6-8 December 2008 join with Chiangmaibike week.
Best Reguard
Dusit Tathong
Front Office Manager
เมื่อ สิงหาคม 22, 2008 8:35 ก่อนเที่ยง, [email [email protected]][email protected][/email] เขียนว่า:
Your Name = Ray Fisher
Your Email Address = [email [email protected]][email protected][/email]
DO NOT HIT THE REPLY BUTTON = TO reply to
FROM CAPT SLASH on 2 Feb 2007
Uttaradit
Numchai Hotel, 140 Baht, on Baromart road
New York is a nice restaurant in a soi opposite the hotel, owned by a German who does nice T bone steaks, I had a 500 gramme one today with a large plate of fries for 299 Baht
FROM Robin Holmes on 28 Feb 2007
http://www.cavelodge.com/
Nothing I can say to do this place justice. Friendly comfortable good food and home baked bread.
11 to Phittslanuk
Hi Ray23,
Ray here are the contact details. The hotel is opposite S-Mile furniture shop.
30/2 Moo 7 Tumbol Watchan,
Amphor Muang,
Phitsanulok 65000
Tel +6655216771-2
Room Rates
1 double bed = 450 Baht
Twin bed = 490 Baht
Like i said Ray the hotel is about 6 months old, very friendly and helpfull staff. I stayed there for 3 months so i got discount.
Hope this helps you's.
Lucky’s Hotel Wang Gao Hotel 055-245-5818
12 to Chumpae
12 to 2228 Nong Bua Lampho L/T
Udon
Misc: Info
Very nice, quiet, common area, Wifi.
563/3 Intarakeeree rd, Mae Sot, Tak 63110
08-1972-4467 & 08-1886-2950
For food: right next door is T-corner, which is not bad.
Mae Sot for a few months now at Phannu House. Fairly modern, friendly, good service. Coming into town from the Burma side it's just before the traffic police, where the road splits into two one-way streets on the right.
N16 42.839 E98 33.724
D with hot shower from 250B.
AC rooms available.
I prefer Casa Mia Restaurant, excellent Thai, Burmese and western food.
Opens 7h for breakfast, I'm there every day.
To find it, go West past a lot of bars about 500m or so, turn right into the only large road there is.
GPS N16 42.731 E98 33.465
Cheers,
5 Post subject: Recommended GT Rider Spots & Contacts in North Thailand.
________________________________________
CHIANG DAO
1. Kurt and Mons 053 388 011 great nites stay, and free internet 190 baht a nite (I think), they only have 2 rooms so best to book in advance, closed wednesday.
2. Resort run by Dutch guy. (His card all in Thai) Turn Left at side of MP gas station, on left going north through town. 053 388 255 Stayed here 1 nite, the Dutch guy, has about 5 brand new bungalows, 250 baht a nite. He even came out to main road to show us way in. Great Place.
John is a characterful Aussie who went out of his way to help us - he straight off gave us a lift down to Tony's in his recently built chair outfit to pick up some bikes and then lent us full face lids from his own collection! He can ride a bit too....!!
You have to take your chances on room availability as there is no booking system but there are quite a few rooms.
, down a little alley/lot
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Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 2567
Location: Thailand Posted: 28 Feb 2008 11:41 Post subject: Chiang Saen Restaurant
________________________________________
IN CHIANG SAEN
1. KRUA CHIANG SAEN Restaurant. Another big thumbs up for this place.
Excellent value for money, superb food, big servings low prices.
River side on the 'Khong, opposite Gin's Ghouse at the Golden Triangle end of town!
The Happy Go Lucky Girlfriend singer, who knows her food, insisted we eat there again. And we did last night: huge fish, fresh fresh vegies & tasty spicy Thai salads. And very inexpensive. Check it out. Highly recommended!
_________________
Davidfl
Keep The Power On
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Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 2567
Location: Thailand Posted: 12 Mar 2008 20:22 Post subject:
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IN SOPPONG
1. The Soppong River Inn
http://www.soppong.com/
.
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Davidfl
Keep The Power On
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Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 2567
Location: Thailand Posted: 25 Apr 2008 15:10 Post subject:
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CHIANG MAI
Two guesthouses with undercover parking & very close to the Kafe
1. Boonthavon Court
http://www.boonthavon.com/
2. Ban Wiang
http://www.banwiang-guesthouse.com/home.htm
Opposite each other, & walking distance to the Kafe.
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globalgypsy
Biker
Joined: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 70
Location: Thailand Posted: 26 Apr 2008 11:33 Post subject: Updates for Chiang Dao
________________________________________
Hi guys,
Just wanted to let you know that the prices for our Place (on and Kurt's Restaurant and Guesthouse) and Cees Place have changed a little.
Our room is now 250 Baht per night and still includes water at night and free brewed coffee in the morning. It is now a little suite with two nice sofa chairs, a sitting area outside the room and private bathroom with hot shower
Cee's Bungalows now all have satelite TV and are 300 Baht per night
Numerous guesthouses and Western restaurants have sprung up during the past year in Chiang Dao, which makes it a nice place to use for a base, when exploring Northern Thailand by motorcycle.
The road to Chiang Dao, from Chiang Mai, is nearly completed and all paved now.
_________________
Come visit us sometime at Mon and Kurt's Restaurant in Chiang Dao
Run by Bikers - for Bikers!
http://www.chiangdao.org
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Davidfl
Revered Old Git
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 2567
Location: Thailand Posted: 30 Apr 2008 14:54 Post subject:
________________________________________
IN PHAYAO
1. Phu Thong Place for accommodation. 500 baht a night with brekky / 400 without. Excellent value for money.
2. Krua Thep Pub & Restaurant for great 70s-80s pop-rock music. Good food, staff & service.
3. Lakeview Pub. Good atmosphere & nice jazzy Thai music. Brilliant young lead guitarist & singer Mr Bird with the band Talents. They've