Quality of rural road 4044

[MonikaH]

Hi,

I am a fairly new member on holiday in Thailand. I only discovered the new members forum right now ...

At the moment I am in Mae Salong and I am considering taking Rural Road 4044 along the river Kok to drive back to Chiang Rai. What quality of road should I expect?

I rented a Honda Lead 125 and I am a bad driver - very slow. As long as the road is sealed or a a good dirt road, which is not too steep, I am fine. Today I went from Doi Tung via 1338 and 1130 to Mae Salong which was really fine and a lot of fun.

Thanks for your help,
Monika

 

[DavidFL]

The dirt basically starts / finishes here

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You can check out some of these earlier GTR trip reports for riding along the Kok.

On the North side

Chiang Rai to Doi Mae Salong. In Elephants we trust.

The plan was to ride from Chiang Rai, west following the Kok river, then head north over a few hills to hwy 1089 and turn off to Doi Mae Salong for lunch at “Sweet Doi Mae Salong” restaurant, then ride back to Chiang Rai the same way. This is a short enjoyable ride with some good dirt...

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A Fun Ride In The Park; Lam Nam Kok At The End Of Dry Season

March is great time to ride the dirt in the Lam Nam Kok NP, Chiang Rai. In rainy season, the locals use chains on the rear wheels of cars and bikes, to get through the sticky clay mud...... not a time for me to be there... I've tried it... 15klms west of Mae Chan on the 1089, turn south into...

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Chiang Rai To Ban Sira And Back. A Pleasant Sunday Morning Ride West Of Chiang Rai.

Chiang Rai to Ban Sira and back. A Sunday morning ride west of Chiang Rai. Bike. KLX250 Distance. Around 100kms in 4 hours. The reason why I decided to base myself in Chiang Rai, is because in 5 minutes from the centre of the city, your riding in rural Thailand with endless trails and...

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Chiang Rai Trails

Turning off 1089 through Huai Mae Hin Fon, you take a steep trail up the mountain which leads on to some great trails through the Lam Nam Kok National Park on the north side of the river. Past a new Akha grave After an hour or so, you drop down to Pha Kwang and a lovely part of the Kok...

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On the South side

Doi Gart Phi - Camping

With the end of the rainy season, time to get the camping gear out again. DoiGart Phi Forest park is off the Doi Wawi road, 3037. Roughly south from Thaton, Chiang Rai province. The turn off is fairly close to the Lao Lee Resort, through a small Yao village near the base of the mountain. You...

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Hiking; Lam Nam Kok NP Kok river

We started at the PaSoet Hot Springs on the south bank of the Kok River and walked on the road northwest. Taking the turn up to the Bamboo Nest GH we started climbing steeply. Exposed and humid, this was a bit tough going. But then into more jungle paths. After some hours into the mountains...

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Chiang Rai, Kok River, Wawi, Doi Chang, Loop.

North Thailand. Chiang Rai, Kok River, Wawi, Doi Chang, Loop. This a nice motorcycle ride that heads west out of Chiang Rai, following the south side of Kok river until you hit hwy 3037, where you turn left and head south, enjoying the Twisties on the way to Wawi. A few Kilometres south of...

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A Pleasant Sunday Morning Ride Out Of Chiang Rai.

A pleasant Sunday morning ride out of Chiang Rai. I’ve been looking at doing some riding in this area for a while now, most of its all new to me, but it’s probably nothing new to the locals. I decided I would do a small loop out of Chiang Rai to the west, and be back around lunchtime for a...

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Chiang Rai - Wawee - Fang. The delights of riding west out of Chiang Rai

Chiang Rai - Wawee - Fang. This was a great dirt ride. Starting from Chiang Rai I followed the Kok river into Lum Nam Kok NP before heading south west through the park to Wawee. From Wawee it’s a 10 kilometre ride down hwy 3037 to Pong Mai La to where I turned west to Fang on the mainly dirt...

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Personaly I would not recommend you tackling the dirt section on an automatic scooter, especially if you are an inexperienced rider.

 

[MonikaH]

Thanks a lot for linking all these reports. I spent the evening looking at all those great rides and photos - even though I knew after the first few pictures - this is not for me.

So I will keep to the 1089 to return to Chiang Rai - and maybe one of these days go up the river kok starting in Chiang Rai - riding as far as i can ;-)

Anyway, looking at the map it should be possible to got to Thaton via Wawi on sealed roads - maybe I try this. And I also want to go south of Chiang Rai.

 

[DavidFL]

Thanks a lot for linking all these reports. I spent the evening looking at all those great rides and photos - even though I knew after the first few pictures - this is not for me.

So I will keep to the 1089 to return to Chiang Rai - and maybe one of these days go up the river kok starting in Chiang Rai - riding as far as i can ;-)

Anyway, looking at the map it should be possible to got to Thaton via Wawi on sealed roads - maybe I try this. And I also want to go south of Chiang Rai.

Go up to Doi Chang the back way via the weir. The turn off is on the Den Har road route 1211

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the road is all concrete / asphalt.

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[MonikaH]

Hi David,

today I went with my Scooter from Chiang Rai to Thaton via Doi Chang, as you suggested and it was a great day and a great ride and fitted my abilities well

By the way: now I understand this report much better ;-)

Chiang Rai, Kok River, Wawi, Doi Chang, Loop.

North Thailand. Chiang Rai, Kok River, Wawi, Doi Chang, Loop. This a nice motorcycle ride that heads west out of Chiang Rai, following the south side of Kok river until you hit hwy 3037, where you turn left and head south, enjoying the Twisties on the way to Wawi. A few Kilometres south of...

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[DavidFL]

Hi David,

today I went with my Scooter from Chiang Rai to Thaton via Doi Chang, as you suggested and it was a great day and a great ride and fitted my abilities well

By the way: now I understand this report much better ;-)

Chiang Rai, Kok River, Wawi, Doi Chang, Loop.

North Thailand. Chiang Rai, Kok River, Wawi, Doi Chang, Loop. This a nice motorcycle ride that heads west out of Chiang Rai, following the south side of Kok river until you hit hwy 3037, where you turn left and head south, enjoying the Twisties on the way to Wawi. A few Kilometres south of...

www.gt-rider.com

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Excellent. Many thanks for the update.
Glad everything worked out ok.

 

[MonikaH]

The day after tomorrow I would like to go up to Phu Chi Fa, spend the night and return the following day.

Is it possible to do these steep declines on an automatic scooter, when I might be breaking all the time?

Would it be best to take the 1152, then 1048 and then straight up to Phu Chi Fah - or should I rather take the long way, taking the 1020 after Ta and then the 1155? In that case - what about the 4017, followed by the Sa At and Sao Wa Road to Thoeng? There are so many possibilities and I am really unsure what I am able to do. I also do not want to be bored on a super 4 lane highway (1020 - which looks like nowaydays it also might be 4 lanes in the western part?).

Or should I split it into 3 parts - first going to Chiang Khong or a bit further turning south, do the 1039 to Chiang Kham (the real steep part is going up) and then back to Chiang Rai - again wondering whether to take the road starting in Thoeng and the 4017.

I'd really appreciate it if you could help out one more time with your suggestions - then I'll go back to Germany - till maybe next year ;-)

 

[DavidFL]

Here's all you need to know

Chiang Khong - The Great Roller Coaster Ride & Route

The Great Roller Coaster Ride & Route is a one day trip I’ve been looking to piece together for over a year since I discovered a couple of new roads out on the Laos border, south of Chiang Khong. Most people know about R1093 & ride that road along the Laos border, getting on or off at Chiang...

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Id recommend going to Chiang Khong.
Ride up R4029 & then 1093 to Phu Chi Fah
Spend the night .
Then ride down 1093 from Phu Chi Fah to 1155 & home to Chiang Rai, which ever way.
If you want to tackle the Big Dipper R4018 do it from East to West, 1155 to R1020. NOT West to East 1020 - 1155.

 

[Oddvar]

Some years ago I meet these girls coming down from the Big Dipper. They were happy and thought it was fun, unlike some HD riders I rode with.
Don't think they speak to me anymore.

 

[Ejeas]

Hey, I’m Beremy

I love to review hotels, restaurants, places I visit, and write about anything lifestyle in general. Of course, traveling is my biggest passion, and it brings me SO much happiness! But even more is being able to share my experiences with others.

I am also a bit of a nature freak. I love being outdoors. I love riding motorcycle & especially Harley Davidsons. I am always exploring.

I just love being able to let go of all the routines and schedules that we become so attached to, so used to… I just want to be wild and adventurous!

 

[MonikaH]

Here's all you need to know

Chiang Khong - The Great Roller Coaster Ride & Route

The Great Roller Coaster Ride & Route is a one day trip I’ve been looking to piece together for over a year since I discovered a couple of new roads out on the Laos border, south of Chiang Khong. Most people know about R1093 & ride that road along the Laos border, getting on or off at Chiang...

www.gt-rider.com

Id recommend going to Chiang Khong.
Ride up R4029 & then 1093 to Phu Chi Fah
Spend the night .
Then ride down 1093 from Phu Chi Fah to 1155 & home to Chiang Rai, which ever way.
If you want to tackle the Big Dipper R4018 do it from East to West, 1155 to R1020. NOT West to East 1020 - 1155.

Hi David,

I did exactly as you said (no Big Dipper) and it was great - perfect for me
Thank you a lot for helping me make my holiday a really good one - tomorrow I'll fly back to Germany,

Monika

 

[DavidFL]

Hi David,

I did exactly as you said (no Big Dipper) and it was great - perfect for me
Thank you a lot for helping me make my holiday a really good one - tomorrow I'll fly back to Germany,

Monika

Excellent. Many thanks for the feedback. Glad you enjoyed GTR & had a great biking holiday.